Octopus Overlords

Front Two-Four-Two

We have always said two four two and that's a pretty big we of people I've known over the years, some of which have hobnobbed with WaxTrax bands and bands in the WaxTrax orbit crowd. I've never heard anyone say different. But now that you say it, I wouldn't bet real money that two four two is what it's supposed to be.

Always two four two for me.

"Front Two For One"

Because they pretty much always came with Nitzer Ebb.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:42 pm "Front Two For One"

Because they pretty much always came with Nitzer Ebb.

I had heard Nitzer Ebb songs when I first started getting into industrial, but had never seen their name written out anywhere.

For ages, I thought they were Knights of Reb.

Purely as an aside, my dad was an airline pilot, and brought back Tyranny for You for me after a European trip when I was about 13. He said he heard it playing in a record store, and I always thought it was cool that he went so far outside of his classic rock wheelhouse.

Huge fan of that album.

[edit] - This may sound depressing. My dad is still kicking it. He’s just no longer an airline pilot.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:42 pm "Front Two For One"

Because they pretty much always came with Nitzer Ebb.

Truth!!!

Spent time at the Nectarine when you went the UofM, did you? (or the Shelter, or Industry, or the Shitty Club, or that other place in Pontiac whose name I don't remember)

(And now I'm going to "Headhunter" stuck in my head all day... followed by "Join in the Chant")

LordMortis wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:42 pm "Front Two For One"

Because they pretty much always came with Nitzer Ebb.

Truth!!!

Spent time at the Nectarine when you went the UofM, did you? (or the Shelter, or Industry, or the Shitty Club, or that other place in Pontiac whose name I don't remember)

Nectarine in high school.

In case anyone is looking for a photo to frame and give to that special relative this year:

Stupid fucking turkey.

The guy with the blue and pink head is pretty cool though.

LordMortis wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 am (And now I'm going to "Headhunter" stuck in my head all day... followed by "Join in the Chant")

One - You lock the target
Two - You bait the line
Three - You slowly spread the net
And four - You catch the man

Kinda fitting for a politics thread though.

Skinypupy wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:22 pm

LordMortis wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 am (And now I'm going to "Headhunter" stuck in my head all day... followed by "Join in the Chant")

One - You lock the target
Two - You bait the line
Three - You slowly spread the net
And four - You catch the man

Kinda fitting for a politics thread though.

Lies, lies, lies, lies
Gold, gold, gold, gold
Guns, guns, guns, guns
Fire, fire, fire
Gold, gold, gold, gold
Church, church, church, church
Guns, guns, guns, guns
Fire, fire, fire
Muscle and hate
Muscle and hate
Muscle, muscle, muscle, muscle

We all understood in the late 80s early 90s. We've all forgotten.

Reminds me of the podcast I heard about Lincoln-Douglas debate in schools. If you fail to refute everything, you lose points.

Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:25 pm Reminds me of the podcast I heard about Lincoln-Douglas debate in schools. If you fail to refute everything, you lose points.

Heh. I did LD debate for 6 years -- through 2nd year of University -- and this is mostly true. The 'refute everything' idea was way more true in Team Policy debate. Team policy debates essentially turned into micromachine type recitation of points with people furiously scribbling notes. It was the speed chess of debate.

LD was a bit more strategy/tactical blend. You could safely skip refuting an obviously weak argument to focus time on something with higher value. The time to make arguments was highly compressed so people would often drop a weaker argument and hope you'd chase it to waste time. In the end, the judge decided how much weight the argument had so you had to be able to read the judge. It was far more elegant IMO. At least as it was practiced in the early to mid 90s.

malchior wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:45 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:25 pm Reminds me of the podcast I heard about Lincoln-Douglas debate in schools. If you fail to refute everything, you lose points.

Heh. I did LD debate for 6 years -- through 2nd year of University -- and this is mostly true. The 'refute everything' idea was way more true in Team Policy debate. Team policy debates essentially turned into micromachine type recitation of points with people furiously scribbling notes. It was the speed chess of debate.

I did that in high school. Tournaments really came down to sweaty nerds spitting facts off cards as quickly as possible.

One reason I’m not a fan of legalizing marijuana was having 4 minutes to rebut 12 minutes of anti-legalization arguments in high school policy debate. Conflating arguments into multiple sub-points to still “respond” in sufficient detail and speed was excruciating. And i was damn good at it, too.

It did help that our college judges were often clearly biased. But the judge sponsored by Prison Town High was a guaranteed no-win ballot, and enough to block us from going to Nationals.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:24 am

LordMortis wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:42 pm "Front Two For One"

Because they pretty much always came with Nitzer Ebb.

Truth!!!

Spent time at the Nectarine when you went the UofM, did you? (or the Shelter, or Industry, or the Shitty Club, or that other place in Pontiac whose name I don't remember)

Nectarine in high school.

Where did you go to high school? In A2?

Remus West wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:48 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:24 am

LordMortis wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:42 pm "Front Two For One"

Because they pretty much always came with Nitzer Ebb.

Truth!!!

Spent time at the Nectarine when you went the UofM, did you? (or the Shelter, or Industry, or the Shitty Club, or that other place in Pontiac whose name I don't remember)

Nectarine in high school.

Where did you go to high school? In A2?

Affirmative.

not gonna mix Trump and that music - no thanks.

Really good businessman

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Hard to believe!

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1333594597260333056

naednek wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:57 am Really good businessman

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Yeah but how much did Trump's "campaign" make for Biden to gain 132 to votes in Wisconsin? Considerably more than 3M, I suspect. There are reports of over 150M raised since election day just to his Election Defense fund alone.

LordMortis wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:33 am There are reports of over 150M raised since election day just to his Election Defense fund alone.

Yup.

LordMortis wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:33 am Yeah but how much did Trump's "campaign" make for Biden to gain 132 to votes in Wisconsin? Considerably more than 3M, I suspect. There are reports of over 150M raised since election day just to his Election Defense fund alone.

The grift must flow.

https://twitter.com/GlennKesslerWP/stat ... 2790405122

EDIT: NYT says it's closer to $170 million.

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/sta ... 7495853056

malchior wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:11 am Hard to believe!

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1333594597260333056

I've seen that going around, but in context he seems to be (mis)using "vet" to mean "filter" or "get outside approval for."

This is good!

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1 ... 1121630210

Metal Kenneth Copeland.

The internet is undefeated...

Holman wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:14 am

malchior wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:11 am Hard to believe!

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1333594597260333056

I've seen that going around, but in context he seems to be (mis)using "vet" to mean "filter" or "get outside approval for."

Sure but then again I don't care...since words have meanings. And it's a bullshit take anyway. He peddles conspiracy theories and garbage information. It truly isn't vetted because it can't be.

Smoove_B wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:50 pm This is good!
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1 ... 1121630210

That was brilliant. Bra-fucking-vo.

The GOP sharpening their knives for the once and future dictator or is this the work of some brilliant Dem booster? I don't know. I'd love to see both of them lose.

https://twitter.com/CursedLavaLamp/stat ... 3739534338

malchior wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:07 pm The GOP sharpening their knives for the once and future dictator or is this the work of some brilliant Dem booster?

Definitely the latter, judging by the content on reallyamerican.com.

I just hope the Trump write-in movement gets momentum. Can you imagine Agolf tweeting: DON'T VOTE FOR ME! IT'S A TRAP!

malchior wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:07 pm The GOP sharpening their knives for the once and future dictator or is this the work of some brilliant Dem booster? I don't know. I'd love to see both of them lose.

https://twitter.com/CursedLavaLamp/stat ... 3739534338

An Andrew Yang project maybe?

Alefroth wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:05 pm
An Andrew Yang project maybe?

That was my first thought since he is down there.

Jaymann wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:21 pm

Alefroth wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:05 pm
An Andrew Yang project maybe?

That was my first thought since he is down there.

The site that did the signs is here: www.reallyamerican.com. Looks like it's just three random dudes.

Partnered with Yang-

https://reallyamerican.com/really-ameri ... oth-seats/

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