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HAND17 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0280 Pyperkub [BB]
0167 RunningMn9
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus [button]
0388 Ralph-Wiggum [SB]

Preflop action:
Ralph-Wiggum (386) in SB for 2
Pyperkub (276) in BB for 4 (pot: 6)
ACTION ON RunningMn9 (167)

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Everyone should now have their HAND17 hole cards. Good luck,
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Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Animus wrote:Sigh...second recent hand that would've yielded at least a straight had a not folded pre-flop.
It would be best to refrain from giving out your hand info until the hand is over.
This is definitely in the rules of live poker, but revealing this information is okay according to the rules of this tournament:
The Meal, in the Etiquette section wrote:In-thread discussion of the play thus far is encouraged (and especially so for prior hands). The only text which is not permissible in the thread are quotes from PMs sent out by the judge. Players may lie about their hands, tell the truth about their holdings, or any number of misdirections. These comments are legal (and very counter to the things permissible in a live game).
So don't feel bad Animus.

This forum pOOker game is some bastardiziation hybrid between live poker, online poker, and adjustments to both that I think would make the game more interesting to observers.

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But shouldn't such hand discussion (lying to gain an advantage, etc.) be kept only to those still in the hand?
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Ralph-Wiggum wrote:But shouldn't such hand discussion (lying to gain an advantage, etc.) be kept only to those still in the hand?
In live (casino) poker, definitely. But in this tournament, think of admissions like that the same as someone (maybe at a home game) banging the table when they've folded but seen the flop. In online games, you'll frequently see people make the same claims as Animus did in the chat windows.

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Raise to 20.

Action is now on: itaiyo
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RunningMn9 wrote:Raise to 20.
RM9 - did you send PM (to itaiyo)?
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Yeah, it sounds like one little addition may be in order for the new rules to work. After you post that you took action, adding a line at the bottom of your post that states "Action is now on: dinglenuts" means you sent dinglenuts a PM letting him know that he's next to act. If you don't put that line at the end of your action post, then folks are perfectly within their rights to badger you about not sending off that PM.

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The Meal wrote:Yeah, it sounds like one little addition may be in order for the new rules to work. After you post that you took action, adding a line at the bottom of your post that states "Action is now on: dinglenuts" means you sent dinglenuts a PM letting him know that he's next to act. If you don't put that line at the end of your action post, then folks are perfectly within their rights to badger you about not sending off that PM.

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Pyperkub wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:Raise to 20.
RM9 - did you send PM (to itaiyo)?
Of course. I just wasn't aware of the additional logging requirements. :)
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Action: Fold

Action on godhugh (PM to be sent within minutes)
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Action: Fold

PM being sent to Hentzau as we speak...
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Action: Fold

PM being sent to Aust...um, Animus.
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Now that's a nice string of posts. Well done, everybody.

HAND17 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0280 Pyperkub [BB]
0167 RunningMn9
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus [button]
0388 Ralph-Wiggum [SB]

Preflop action:
Ralph-Wiggum (386) in SB for 2
Pyperkub (276) in BB for 4
RunningMn9 (147) raises by 16 to 20
itaiyo (130) folds
godhugh (90) folds
hentzau (74) folds
Austin (381) folds -- AWAY (pot: 26)
ACTION ON Animus (490)

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Fold
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Post by Ralph-Wiggum »

Fold.

Action on: Pyperkub.
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Call

Action on: The Meal
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Post flop action goes Pyperkub then RunningMn9

HAND17 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0280 Pyperkub [BB]
0167 RunningMn9
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus [button]
0388 Ralph-Wiggum [SB]

Preflop action:
Ralph-Wiggum (386) in SB for 2
Pyperkub (276) in BB for 4
RunningMn9 (147) raises by 16 to 20
itaiyo (130) folds
godhugh (90) folds
hentzau (74) folds
Austin (381) folds -- AWAY
Animus (490) folds
Ralph-Wiggum (386) folds
Pyperkub calls 16 more for 20 (pot: 42)

Two the the flop:
The flop comes :Ac::7s::6s:
ACTION ON Pyperkub (260)

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whereinhell did my post go?

Anyhow, Bet 25

Action on: RM9
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Raise to 147 (All-In)

Action on: Pyperkub
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Fold
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Post flop action goes Pyperkub then RunningMn9

HAND17 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0280 Pyperkub [BB]
0167 RunningMn9
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus [button]
0388 Ralph-Wiggum [SB]

Preflop action:
Ralph-Wiggum (386) in SB for 2
Pyperkub (276) in BB for 4
RunningMn9 (147) raises by 16 to 20
itaiyo (130) folds
godhugh (90) folds
hentzau (74) folds
Austin (381) folds -- AWAY
Animus (490) folds
Ralph-Wiggum (386) folds
Pyperkub calls 16 more for 20

Two the the flop:
The flop comes :Ac::7s::6s:
Pyperkub (235) bets 25
RunningMn9 (all-in) raises by 122 to 147
Pyperkub (235) folds
RunningMn9 wins the pot of 214 chips

Hand summary and chip count
0235 Pyperkub (call 20 preflop, bet 25-fold flop)
0214 RunningMn9 (raise to 20 preflop, raise to 147 {all in} flop, win without showdown)
0130 itaiyo (fold preflop)
0090 godhugh (fold preflop)
0074 hentzau (fold preflop)
0381 Austin (fold preflop) -- AWAY
0490 Animus (fold preflop)
0386 Ralph-Wiggum (fold preflop)

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HAND18 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0235 Pyperkub [SB]
0214 RunningMn9 [BB]
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus
0386 Ralph-Wiggum [button]

Preflop action:
Pyperkub (233) in SB for 2
RunningMn9 (210) in BB for 4 (pot: 6)
ACTION ON itaiyo (130)

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Everyone should now have their cards for HAND18. Good luck,
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Action: Call
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Post-HAND17 stats dump.

This is the last of the three types of stats dumps I'll do every ten hands. The most recent stats dump talked about how good folks' cards have been were they to see all seven cards. This stats dump will rank folks' hole cards in the traditional pre-flop sense. I used Poker Tracker to determine how well each hole card holding is expected to do against N random hands (where N is the number of opponents in the hand) if all hands see the river. As an example, against 9 opponents, pocket aces would be expected to hold up 31.07% of the time. Pocket kings in that situation should get the nod 26.10% of the time. At the other end of the spectrum, 7-2 offsuit is worth about 4.8% of the preflop equity. If you want to run similar simulations, download the software at www.pokerstove.com and perform your own monte carlo simulations (I tend to use 30+ million games for each run).

Average Preflop Equity
12.9% Ralph-Wiggum
11.9% RunningMn9
11.8% CSL (eliminated in HAND04)
11.5% Lord Mortis (eliminated in HAND11)
10.7% itaiyo
10.5% Austin
10.5% godhugh
9.8% hentzau
9.8% Animus
9.7% Pyperkub

It's fair to directly compare folks who've played in the same number of hands, but the expectation should be for CSL and Lord Mortis to have slightly lower preflop equity numbers, as they played their hands against more opponents. The fact that they still have relatively high numbers compared to the rest of the group means that they had relatively good looking cards, preflop.

Post-HAND20 the analysis will be back to looking at the percentages of pocket pairs dealt, suited and unsuited connectors, two "Broadway" cards, and pocket holdings which were suited.

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Fold
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So, in other words, I've had the worst pre-flop hands, but on the whole, they've averaged out to be the best river hands (based on the posts).

Damn man, talk about making me work and sweat for my chips...
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Call.
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HAND18 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0235 Pyperkub [SB]
0214 RunningMn9 [BB]
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus
0386 Ralph-Wiggum [button]

Preflop action:
Pyperkub (233) in SB for 2
RunningMn9 (210) in BB for 4
itiayo (126) calls 4
godhugh (90) folds
hentzau (70) calls 4
Austin (381) folds -- AWAY (pot: 14)
ACTION ON Animus (490)

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Call.

Action on: Pyperkub
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Call

Action On: RM9
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Action: I will decline my option to raise the un-raised pot. ;)

Action on: Neal.
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HAND18 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0235 Pyperkub [SB]
0214 RunningMn9 [BB]
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus
0386 Ralph-Wiggum [button]

Preflop action:
Pyperkub (233) in SB for 2
RunningMn9 (210) in BB for 4
itiayo (126) calls 4
godhugh (90) folds
hentzau (70) calls 4
Austin (381) folds -- AWAY
Animus (490) folds
Ralph-Wiggum (382) calls 4
Pyperkub (231) calls 2 more for 4
RunningMn9 (210) calls 0 more for 4 (pot: 20)

Five to the flop:
The flop comes :Jh::5s::3h:
ACTION ON Pyperkub (231)

Post flop order of action is Pyperkub, RunningMn9, itaiyo, hentzau, and Ralph-Wiggum.

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Check

Action on: RM9
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Bet 20

Action on: itaiyo
And in banks across the world
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The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
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Well he's slowly drifting out of range
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Action: Raise to 75
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All in.
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Very exciting. I've got orders from a few other players who've got out-of-town/travel-day activities going on, so pay attention to the inline action.

HAND18 Level 2: Blinds 2/4
Incoming bankrollls:
0235 Pyperkub [SB]
0214 RunningMn9 [BB]
0130 itaiyo
0090 godhugh
0074 hentzau
0381 Austin -- AWAY
0490 Animus
0386 Ralph-Wiggum [button]

Preflop action:
Pyperkub (233) in SB for 2
RunningMn9 (210) in BB for 4
itiayo (126) calls 4
godhugh (90) folds
hentzau (70) calls 4
Austin (381) folds -- AWAY
Animus (490) folds
Ralph-Wiggum (382) calls 4
Pyperkub (231) calls 2 more for 4
RunningMn9 (210) calls 0 more for 4

Five to the flop:
The flop comes :Jh::5s::3h:

Pyperkub (231) checks
RunningMn9 (190) bets 20
itaiyo (51) raises by 55 to 75
hentzau (all-in) calls 70, (main pot: 180, side pot {itaiyo}: 5)
Ralph-Wiggum (382) folds -- AWAY
Pyperkub (156) calls 75 (main pot: 250, side pot {itaiyo, Pyperkub}: 10)
ACTION ON RunningMn9 (190)

As always, Ralph-Wiggum will have to announce in the thread that he's back before taking action (which is the same for Austin).

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