BSG VI-II The Social -Cylons win in a rout

[Lassr]

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This win was like the perfect storm for the Cylons.
Everything went right. (Killing Galen on the 1st day was unfortunate though, I was not able to see how he would have worked out in the game).


Was this rule set as enjoyable as the other rule sets?

A lot of my write ups were rushed this time due to time constraints. SO I don't think they were as funny or thought out as some of my others I've done.


Thanks for playing!

[Mr Bubbles]

This coming five minutes after the vote is PRICELESS

Memorial Day, I thought no biggie I'll catch up later and bam I'm dead. I understand why the bad guys voted me, I'm shocked the good guys let me get steamrolled like that.

Oh and btw... Sorry redrun

[Grundbegriff]

Good retort, Brendan.

See? The spirit of the game lives on in the real-world animosities and middling slights that we cultivate for our collective entertainment.

[Brendan]

Good retort, Brendan.

See? The spirit of the game lives on in the real-world animosities and middling slights that we cultivate for our collective entertainment.

Haha. I just try to pay attention to the craft of role-spoofing!

After previous missteps, I re-read every post I make two or three times to minimize the risk of leaking information.

[Grundbegriff]

Good retort, Brendan.

See? The spirit of the game lives on in the real-world animosities and middling slights that we cultivate for our collective entertainment.

Haha. I just try to pay attention to the craft of role-spoofing!

After previous missteps, I re-read every post I make two or three times to minimize the risk of leaking information.

Join my LOST game. You haven't played anything like that yet.

[stessier]

Semaj should have told us he was Gaeta. Not telling us about Remus was a good play though.

[Brendan]

Semaj should have told us he was Gaeta. Not telling us about Remus was a good play though.

He telegraphed it when he said he thought Remus was probably Tyrol.

[stessier]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

[Brendan]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

[Grundbegriff]

Everything would've been different if they hadn't killed me so early. My death was the turning point in the game.

Not really, but I felt that I had to say that for the sake of sustaining the legend/myth/rep/cred.

[Lassr]

Semaj should have told us he was Gaeta. Not telling us about Remus was a good play though.

He only had the Remus scan.

He was blocked by Ellen while trying to scan Grundbegriff, then killed the next night while trying to scan grundbegriff.

If he came out then it was assured the Cylons would kill him before he could find out if Athena was already dead. His hinting around it the day he had votes against him really did him in. Unagi caught onto it fairly quickly.

[stessier]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

I disagree. Theo never would have let go of kenetickid. Bubbles could have voted anywhere. There were no guarantees.

[stessier]

Semaj should have told us he was Gaeta. Not telling us about Remus was a good play though.

He telegraphed it when he said he thought Remus was probably Tyrol.

Yeah - easy to see when you know you've killed everyone else. Not so easy for a normal villager.

[stessier]

My bad - Unagi would have been a breeze to find after we lynched Brendan. I kind of skimmed once I saw Brendan's mistake - Unagi said he protected Brendan. Ta-da, another obvious lie.

Well - my gods, DUH!! (if you truly could reveal Brendan)

First, this was designed to give 2 of 4 of you reason enough to vote Bubbles today, that's all we needed.
Second, the D'Anna reveal was after Brendan faked waiting for Lassr to PM him the results of his "1 time day power - to learn the role of a cylon he just scanned."
Third, lynching Brendan wasn't ever going to tell anyone anything (actually annoying to us, as we could easily frame you and scoop with his death).
Fourth, we needed 1 day, this wasn't designed for distance - it was built for speed.

Something about this was bugging me (besides the arrogant "DUH" ).

Lynching Brendan today very clearly would have proven something - that he was a evil as otherwise we lose. That's where the house of cards collapses and everyone gets caught.

So there!

[redrun]

I understand why the bad guys voted me, I'm shocked the good guys let me get steamrolled like that.

Oh and btw... Sorry redrun

-- No problem. I couldn't understand why you were doing it, so after a bit attributed it to evil intentions... something for me to remember to be careful about doing. Must also remember to not get locked into a path of thought as to how the game is going (ie: being sure on day three that we were one day out from death and therefore accepting Brendan's claim). I should have pushed harder for a Chaos kill. Not sure how, but something to think about.

-- Thanks Lassr. It was an interesting game.

[Isgrimnur]

I blame theohall and kenetickid for distracting from finding higher value targets.

Their argument distracted me from scanning anyone else, as I'm sure two humans wouldn't be going at each other like that...

[stessier]

I blame theohall and kenetickid for distracting from finding higher value targets.

Their argument distracted me from scanning anyone else, as I'm sure two humans wouldn't be going at each other like that...

Have you never seen theo play before???

[Brendan]

My bad - Unagi would have been a breeze to find after we lynched Brendan. I kind of skimmed once I saw Brendan's mistake - Unagi said he protected Brendan. Ta-da, another obvious lie.

Well - my gods, DUH!! (if you truly could reveal Brendan)

First, this was designed to give 2 of 4 of you reason enough to vote Bubbles today, that's all we needed.
Second, the D'Anna reveal was after Brendan faked waiting for Lassr to PM him the results of his "1 time day power - to learn the role of a cylon he just scanned."
Third, lynching Brendan wasn't ever going to tell anyone anything (actually annoying to us, as we could easily frame you and scoop with his death).
Fourth, we needed 1 day, this wasn't designed for distance - it was built for speed.

Something about this was bugging me (besides the arrogant "DUH" ).

Lynching Brendan today very clearly would have proven something - that he was a evil as otherwise we lose. That's where the house of cards collapses and everyone gets caught.

So there!

Nah - lynching me on the last day would've demonstrated that I was evil, but why would they choose someone from a pool of 5, instead of a pool of 2 that I'd clearly selected? It was the double-reverse-feint.

And in any case, it would've been hard for you to sell lynching me - "Hay guyz, let's kill the guy who's given us uncontested information - yes, it might lose us the game outright, but if it doesn't, then we have all of this new information no new information from which to choose the next target!"

[Brendan]

Oh, and Lassr, I had a great time even despite your narsty prose.

[stessier]

And in any case, it would've been hard for you to sell lynching me - "Hay guyz, let's kill the guy who's given us uncontested information - yes, it might lose us the game outright, but if it doesn't, then we have all of this new information no new information from which to choose the next target!"

No doubt - as proved by the lightening fast vote. But I would have liked the chance to try.

[stessier]

Non-sequitur: We have a production line here called Athena and I always get a little knot in my stomach when we talk about it. Just thought I'd share.

[Lassr]

Oh, and Lassr, I had a great time even despite your narsty prose.

everyone acts like they don't like it but when I left Baltar out of this game everyone was clamoring for him. Y'all are as sick as me, go ahead and admit it!

[stessier]

Has it been mentioned yet that 4 free nights for Ellen are too much? At least I think so. Maybe half that much?

[Remus West]

I blame theohall and kenetickid for distracting from finding higher value targets.

Their argument distracted me from scanning anyone else, as I'm sure two humans wouldn't be going at each other like that...

If you get caught up in that thinking again then don't bother to scan the second, just get them lynched if the first turns up good. Then you have removed a distraction for everyone else as well as yourself - if they turn up evil it is merely a bonus.

[Scoop20906]

Maybe everyone is busy (it is that time of year) and a little stunned over the cylon whitewash but there is a brand spanking new game waiting for some willing participants.

Check it out here: Possessed

[Remus West]

And in any case, it would've been hard for you to sell lynching me - "Hay guyz, let's kill the guy who's given us uncontested information - yes, it might lose us the game outright, but if it doesn't, then we have all of this new information no new information from which to choose the next target!"

No doubt - as proved by the lightening fast vote. But I would have liked the chance to try.

Actually, lynching Brendan on the "last day" would also have given you Unagi since he claimed to have been Starbuck and protected Brendan who would have then been proven evil and thus outing Unagi's lie. Given those two I'm not certain Chaosraven doesn't get lynched due to being high on everyone's lists but we will never know due to itchy trigger fingers.

[Lassr]

Has it been mentioned yet that 4 free nights for Ellen are too much? At least I think so. Maybe half that much?

It would have paid off if you could have nailed one Cylon. Starting night 5 she had to have sex without the drug. So if the game continued she would have started declaring people innocent or had to kill them immediately after the sex.

2 is too few but 3 might work better.

[stessier]

Has it been mentioned yet that 4 free nights for Ellen are too much? At least I think so. Maybe half that much?

It would have paid off if you could have nailed one Cylon. Starting night 5 she had to have sex without the drug. So if the game continued she would have started declaring people innocent or had to kill them immediately after the sex.

2 is too few but 3 might work better.

Make her ability to sleep with someone optional?

It's probably just because of the perfect storm of losing all our Specials that it feels so overpowered. Feel free to ignore me as I'm still a little bitter.

[Lassr]

Has it been mentioned yet that 4 free nights for Ellen are too much? At least I think so. Maybe half that much?

It would have paid off if you could have nailed one Cylon. Starting night 5 she had to have sex without the drug. So if the game continued she would have started declaring people innocent or had to kill them immediately after the sex.

2 is too few but 3 might work better.

Make her ability to sleep with someone optional?

It's probably just because of the perfect storm of losing all our Specials that it feels so overpowered. Feel free to ignore me as I'm still a little bitter.

This was a bad game to test the new rules. Specials were eliminated before they could contribute and no bad Cylons were killed.

If it's optional there would be no drugs.

[Brendan]

And in any case, it would've been hard for you to sell lynching me - "Hay guyz, let's kill the guy who's given us uncontested information - yes, it might lose us the game outright, but if it doesn't, then we have all of this new information no new information from which to choose the next target!"

No doubt - as proved by the lightening fast vote. But I would have liked the chance to try.

Actually, lynching Brendan on the "last day" would also have given you Unagi since he claimed to have been Starbuck and protected Brendan who would have then been proven evil and thus outing Unagi's lie. Given those two I'm not certain Chaosraven doesn't get lynched due to being high on everyone's lists but we will never know due to itchy trigger fingers.

Ah, yes. Finally you find an error!

[Mr Bubbles]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

I disagree. Theo never would have let go of kenetickid. Bubbles could have voted anywhere. There were no guarantees.

Indeed. My suspicion was on Brendan right away. I not once ever entertained that Brendan was telling the truth. I would most definitely would have gone after Unagi after that. Your timing was suspect Brendan and thats what made it seem contrived. Unfortunately my first was off. I have to admit not knowing redrun and KK well distracted me.

[Brendan]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

I disagree. Theo never would have let go of kenetickid. Bubbles could have voted anywhere. There were no guarantees.

Indeed. My suspicion was on Brendan right away. I not once ever entertained that Brendan was telling the truth. I would most definitely would have gone after Unagi after that. Your timing was suspect Brendan and thats what made it seem contrived. Unfortunately my first was off. I have to admit not knowing redrun and KK well distracted me.

Hmm. The timing was the least contrived thing about the reveal - you're telling me you would have assumed that both my named "humans" were non-cylons? And that a cylon Athena pretender wouldn't have just named a human outright as a cylon?

[Mr Bubbles]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

I disagree. Theo never would have let go of kenetickid. Bubbles could have voted anywhere. There were no guarantees.

Indeed. My suspicion was on Brendan right away. I not once ever entertained that Brendan was telling the truth. I would most definitely would have gone after Unagi after that. Your timing was suspect Brendan and thats what made it seem contrived. Unfortunately my first was off. I have to admit not knowing redrun and KK well distracted me.

Hmm. The timing was the least contrived thing about the reveal - you're telling me you would have assumed that both my named "humans" were non-cylons? And that a cylon Athena pretender wouldn't have just named a human outright as a cylon?

Yep precisely because thats what I would be led to believe. And as it turns out I was right, so I see no reason whatsoever to doubt my thinking. Sorry you didn't think it was contrived, but I did and ultimately I was right, although I didn't get much use out of, because I was muzzled really quick.

[theohall]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

I disagree. Theo never would have let go of kenetickid. Bubbles could have voted anywhere. There were no guarantees.

Actually, when he joined me on the Chaosraven vote at the end, I was perfectly ready to let it go. I am an idiot though for following the Bubbles thing the last day.

[Isgrimnur]

I blame theohall and kenetickid for distracting from finding higher value targets.

Their argument distracted me from scanning anyone else, as I'm sure two humans wouldn't be going at each other like that...

If you get caught up in that thinking again then don't bother to scan the second, just get them lynched if the first turns up good. Then you have removed a distraction for everyone else as well as yourself - if they turn up evil it is merely a bonus.

While I did make that mistake the third night, it didn't make a difference since I ended up dead. Semaj was night one, then KK. If I had lived, I would have outed to form a four-person block for voting. I did pick sides on Day 2 by backing KK, which I was hoping people would pick up on and continue.

[Mr Bubbles]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

I disagree. Theo never would have let go of kenetickid. Bubbles could have voted anywhere. There were no guarantees.

Actually, when he joined me on the Chaosraven vote at the end, I was perfectly ready to let it go. I am an idiot though for following the Bubbles thing the last day.

You didn't need me to be an idiot.. you could have done that on your own

[theohall]

And in any case, it would've been hard for you to sell lynching me - "Hay guyz, let's kill the guy who's given us uncontested information - yes, it might lose us the game outright, but if it doesn't, then we have all of this new information no new information from which to choose the next target!"

No doubt - as proved by the lightening fast vote. But I would have liked the chance to try.

Actually, lynching Brendan on the "last day" would also have given you Unagi since he claimed to have been Starbuck and protected Brendan who would have then been proven evil and thus outing Unagi's lie. Given those two I'm not certain Chaosraven doesn't get lynched due to being high on everyone's lists but we will never know due to itchy trigger fingers.

Ah, yes. Finally you find an error!

Suspected this long ago. Right after voting for Mr Bubbles, mistakenly.

[theohall]

And I was trying! I had two right!! But how do you contest a Athena claim on the first day? I would have lynched Brendan today though, Unagi's claim of Starbuck not withstanding.

And that would have turned suspicion on you and Scoop, thereby losing you the game anyway...

I disagree. Theo never would have let go of kenetickid. Bubbles could have voted anywhere. There were no guarantees.

Actually, when he joined me on the Chaosraven vote at the end, I was perfectly ready to let it go. I am an idiot though for following the Bubbles thing the last day.

You didn't need me to be an idiot.. you could have done that on your own

I was referring to me being an idiot following everyone else's vote, just so ya know. What kind of fool (me), votes for CR, then changes his vote because they guy he thinks is a cylon is willing to kill someone else he thinks is a cylon. at myself.

[Remus West]

And in any case, it would've been hard for you to sell lynching me - "Hay guyz, let's kill the guy who's given us uncontested information - yes, it might lose us the game outright, but if it doesn't, then we have all of this new information no new information from which to choose the next target!"

No doubt - as proved by the lightening fast vote. But I would have liked the chance to try.

Actually, lynching Brendan on the "last day" would also have given you Unagi since he claimed to have been Starbuck and protected Brendan who would have then been proven evil and thus outing Unagi's lie. Given those two I'm not certain Chaosraven doesn't get lynched due to being high on everyone's lists but we will never know due to itchy trigger fingers.

Ah, yes. Finally you find an error!

Suspected this long ago. Right after voting for Mr Bubbles, mistakenly.

Except if they were telling the truth Starbuck wouldn't have died in protecting Athena, merely prevented the attack. Starbuck only dies if she protects an evil Cylon not a good one (Tyrol preconvert to evil or Athena both count towards good).

[theohall]

And in any case, it would've been hard for you to sell lynching me - "Hay guyz, let's kill the guy who's given us uncontested information - yes, it might lose us the game outright, but if it doesn't, then we have all of this new information no new information from which to choose the next target!"

No doubt - as proved by the lightening fast vote. But I would have liked the chance to try.

Actually, lynching Brendan on the "last day" would also have given you Unagi since he claimed to have been Starbuck and protected Brendan who would have then been proven evil and thus outing Unagi's lie. Given those two I'm not certain Chaosraven doesn't get lynched due to being high on everyone's lists but we will never know due to itchy trigger fingers.

Ah, yes. Finally you find an error!

Suspected this long ago. Right after voting for Mr Bubbles, mistakenly.

Except if they were telling the truth Starbuck wouldn't have died in protecting Athena, merely prevented the attack. Starbuck only dies if she protects an evil Cylon not a good one (Tyrol preconvert to evil or Athena both count towards good).

It was also suggesting the line of why wouldn't they attack "Athena?" That seemed very odd.