BSG VIII -Assassination. Another minor human victory.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:06 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Newcastle wrote:I say we lynch stessier tomorrow...i think BB is lying and is a cylon...question is why would they sacrifice Qantaga over Stessier.

I still dont believe Stessier is human.

We also didnt wait long enough for everyone to counter claim.

I think Qantaga was possibly the citizen-cylon, and somehow they got lucky in recruiting him.

We test stessier tomorrow to verify if BB is telling the truth.
Gah, I don't know what to say to this. Someone else talk some sense into this guy.

I will help but I doubt he will listen to me.

Newcastle - who didn't have time to counterclaim? Scoop and theo, right? So if they check in and counter tomorrow, we can discuss what to do. Otherwise, bb2112 is Saul as Austin has checked everyone else.

Also, it makes no sense to lynch me if you don't believe bb2112...at least not first. If you lynch me and I come back Cylon, then you have caught him in a lie. If you lynch me and I come back human - which I will - you have learned nothing about bb2112. So if he is countered, the right move is to lynch one of the Saul's or one of their targets if named Cylon, not the ones they point out as human. It's always been that way and we know nothing to make this game any different.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:09 pm

You know, it is quite interesting that Q took out Unagi over anyone else. Why not Austin or RMC or bb? Maybe he could only take out the last person on his vote?

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:13 pm

Newcastle wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Newcastle wrote:I say we lynch stessier tomorrow...i think BB is lying and is a cylon...question is why would they sacrifice Qantaga over Stessier.

I still dont believe Stessier is human.

We also didnt wait long enough for everyone to counter claim.

I think Qantaga was possibly the citizen-cylon, and somehow they got lucky in recruiting him.

We test stessier tomorrow to verify if BB is telling the truth.
Gah, I don't know what to say to this. Someone else talk some sense into this guy.

my view's are shaped simply by the fact that any possible cylon events supposedly is centered around the hidden cylon; in the roles there is no hinting that the powered cylons could have secondary skills or abilities.

I base that observation on the fact that obviously i had a kill & a scan; but the scan was not named, and was secret. however that was alluded to in my power description in the "agendas".

I want to bring that out there for at least folks to ruminate over it.

Whatever. My brain just asploded, so someone else is going to have to "reason" with you.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:17 pm

stessier wrote:You know, it is quite interesting that Q took out Unagi over anyone else. Why not Austin or RMC or bb? Maybe he could only take out the last person on his vote?

This is what I was thinking too. Why not pick out any of the specials? There has to be some rule mechanic that made Ellen choose Unagi.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:26 pm

bb2112 wrote: Whatever. My brain just asploded, so someone else is going to have to "reason" with you.

good thing i'm proven eh? Or am sure it would be a bullet train for me and my whacky ideas! Just wasnt expecting "Ellen" & explosion to occur at the same time. Was expecting the citizen-cylon, but not Ellen. Not that it's outside the realm of possibility.

Though am not dismissing the fact that you could be cylon...will wait till everyone has had a chance to chime in, before I am more accepting of the idea you are saul.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:27 pm

Q was cylon, got it. Q as Ellen, that would mean she gets to search a room, drug 3 times, and berserk. That is 3 powers.
hmm......

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:32 pm

RevHempus71 wrote:Q was cylon, got it. Q as Ellen, that would mean she gets to search a room, drug 3 times, and berserk. That is 3 powers.
hmm......

There are secret powers in play. There is no guarantee that Ellen also got a Zerker power. It could be that the next Cylon lynched after Cain shot someone was a Zerker. Or any number of other things. Without a clear set of rules, we really can't read too much into these things.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:02 pm

And really it is a bad gamble for the Cylons to take to have someone come out as X, then our X would just come out an refute him.

I am not saying the BB is vindicated, but it seems very unlikely that he is a Cylon.

And if I have too much doubt, I could always protect him, and if he kills me, Austin will be told and you can all lynch him.

If they kill me, while I try to protect him, then I think we found out that I would know they killed me and not him..

Hmmm... Decisions..Decisions...Which way are the Cylons going? Or did I already submit my order, and this is all a smoke screen, or did they already submit their kill order, and this is all posturing for no reason...

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:10 pm

They mix the drinks strong at Mardi Grau. No hangover tho. Dodged a bullet.

Just caught up reading. I thought we had this game won and now Unagi get zerked. What a weird game. Why not take out Starbuck?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:56 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:They mix the drinks strong at Mardi Grau. No hangover tho. Dodged a bullet.

Just caught up reading. I thought we had this game won and now Unagi get zerked. What a weird game. Why not take out Starbuck?

Actually, per the math, we do have this game won, no? 3 unknowns and we die on our third miss. That seems like good odds to me.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:08 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:They mix the drinks strong at Mardi Grau. No hangover tho. Dodged a bullet.

Just caught up reading. I thought we had this game won and now Unagi get zerked. What a weird game. Why not take out Starbuck?

We cannot assume he had a choice. Perhaps Unagi was foreordained to take receive the zerk.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:16 pm

Austin wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:They mix the drinks strong at Mardi Grau. No hangover tho. Dodged a bullet.

Just caught up reading. I thought we had this game won and now Unagi get zerked. What a weird game. Why not take out Starbuck?
We cannot assume he had a choice. Perhaps Unagi was foreordained to take receive the zerk.

So you are saying it was Unagi's destiny?

Sucks to be him.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:17 pm

stessier wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:They mix the drinks strong at Mardi Grau. No hangover tho. Dodged a bullet.

Just caught up reading. I thought we had this game won and now Unagi get zerked. What a weird game. Why not take out Starbuck?
Actually, per the math, we do have this game won, no? 3 unknowns and we die on our third miss. That seems like good odds to me.

No, we die on our second miss. Assuming there are 2 cylons still left out there.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:22 pm

bb2112 wrote:
stessier wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:They mix the drinks strong at Mardi Grau. No hangover tho. Dodged a bullet.

Just caught up reading. I thought we had this game won and now Unagi get zerked. What a weird game. Why not take out Starbuck?
Actually, per the math, we do have this game won, no? 3 unknowns and we die on our third miss. That seems like good odds to me.
No, we die on our second miss. Assuming there are 2 cylons still left out there.

Ah, misread your math. So there is still some drama left. Unless of course you are protected tonight and get another scan tomorrow. In which case, 2 misses and 2 unknowns, yes? That doesn't stink either.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:09 pm

0730

Everyone entered the conference room with a little hope, it wasn't long before that hope was dashed. "RMC is dead." Stessier announces. "I stopped by his room on the way here, when he didn't answer I feared the worse. The Cylons must have caught him off guard 'cause he's one tough Frakking bastard."
"Lords of Kobol," Austin says with a huge sigh "How many are there?"

Day
Tigh-Who will you scan?
Doc-Will you PM last victim?
Cain-Will you perform your hidden agenda if possible?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:10 pm

Day 3
1 theohall ----------
2 bb2112 ----------
3 Newcastle ----------
4 Revhempus71 ----------
5 Austin ----------
6 Scoop ----------
7 stessier ----------
.
.
-- ---------
-- ---------
-- ----------
-- --------
-- ----------
-- ----------
-- ----------

Majority = 4
Deadline is: Friday Feb 24, 9PM CST

tru1cy -------- strangled
Remus West -------- Put down
Grundbegriff ------- bashed
Chaosraven ------- self injected
El Guapo ------- screwed
Purge ------ Cained
Unagi ------- broken
Qantaga ------- deactivated
RMC ------ hammered

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:55 pm

So, what sayeth the good Doc?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:36 pm

Stessier

BB2112

Austin

just for funsies!

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:16 am

stessier wrote:So, what sayeth the good Doc?

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:46 am

Info we all have ....

1 theohall ---------- unknown
2 bb2112 ---------- Saul?
3 Newcastle ---------- Cain, Proven nuff said
4 Revhempus71 ----------Unknown, well I know me.
5 Austin ----------Doc? Unproven but uncontested'
6 Scoop ----------Unknown
7 stessier ---------- Scanned human?

If everyone is who they say they are, Scoop and Theo would then have to be the cylons. (assuming there were 4 cylons) From my point of view anyways.

I agree that testing Stessier would show wether or not BB2112 could be lying.

Interesting cooinkydink.

If we test Stessier and he is human then

7 left (5 good, 2 bad) if lynch Stess and he is human
6 left (4 good, 2 bad) then night kill,
5 left (3 good, 2 bad) Miss game over.

I want to hear what Theo and Scoop have to say.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:23 am

I'm drunk and have no beeds left

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:32 am

Austin wrote:
stessier wrote:So, what sayeth the good Doc?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:33 am

RevHempus71 wrote:I agree that testing Stessier would show wether or not BB2112 could be lying.

Are you suggesting that be the plan for today?

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:55 am

Let's hear back from Doc. In the mean time, I have one scan left before I probably get offed tonight.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:03 am

stessier wrote:
RevHempus71 wrote:I agree that testing Stessier would show wether or not BB2112 could be lying.
Are you suggesting that be the plan for today?

No!

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:08 am

stessier wrote:
Austin wrote:
stessier wrote:So, what sayeth the good Doc?

Just messing with ya'. Have not heard back yet.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:48 am

bb2112 wrote:
stessier wrote:
RevHempus71 wrote:I agree that testing Stessier would show wether or not BB2112 could be lying.
Are you suggesting that be the plan for today?
No!

I know you're not. I was wondering about him.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:28 am

Newcastle wrote:For the record...i will be eidting this post w/ the quotes of who wants who shot/scanned. That's all I will be editing it with.

Any objections
/takes out her laser shotgun and starts polishing it

SCOOP
Here are my top three suspects:
1 Purge (my obvious one)
2 bb2112 (considering his push for Remus again I'm surprised he hasn't been tested yet)
3 Stessier (no real idea here but simply because he generated many votes so far).

rev
My top 3
Stessier
BB2112
Theohall

RMC
Theo, BB, Rev

theohall
1) bb2112 - already over-stated why
2) stessier - just seems off
3) RevHempus71 - more TP than anything else.

Unagi
Shoot Theohall Or Stessier.

3rd submission -You missed my 3rd.
I really have 4.
Stessier, Theohall, Qantaga and Purge.

Stessier
I think Unagi should be one target and Theo the other.

bb2112 wrote:My three:

Shoot Q
Scan purge
Vote for Theo

Qantaga

Scoop
bb2112
theohall

I like this post. It shows Q wanted to go after Scoop. If you look over his earlier posts, he had wanted it for a while. Scoop wants to go after a confirmed cylon first. That is 2 points in scoops favor. He could have gotten more if he didn't have 2 good guys on his list.

Both Rev and Theo's list look very similar, with their last choice being each other. Knowing we only get 2 more misses, this is very convenient. Rev has also looked very erratic in the last couple of days. The more I go back and reread, the more I'm convinced that Theo and Rev are our last 2 cylons. Since RMC is now gone, I most likely will only have one scan left.

BTW, thanks for your sacrifice RMC. I will be joining you shortly, I'm sure.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:31 am

stessier wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
stessier wrote:
RevHempus71 wrote:I agree that testing Stessier would show wether or not BB2112 could be lying.
Are you suggesting that be the plan for today?
No!
I know you're not. I was wondering about him.

I get it. I just didn't want to encourage anyone else that might have the same off the wall thought process. This just further damns Rev, IMHO. I would say something about NC, but I was just hoping he was trying to draw out some cylons with this crazy theory. I really, really, really hope so....

purge · Post by **purge** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:39 am

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:23 am

Day 4
1 theohall ---------- ---
2 bb2112 ---------- ---
3 Newcastle ---------- Austin ---
4 Revhempus71 ---------- ---
5 Austin ---------- ---
6 Scoop ---------- ---
7 stessier ---------- ---
.
.
Austin -- 1 --------- Newcastle
-- ---------
-- ----------
-- --------
-- ----------
-- ----------
-- ----------

Majority = 4
Deadline is: Friday Feb 24, 9PM CST

tru1cy -------- strangled
Remus West -------- Put down
Grundbegriff ------- bashed
Chaosraven ------- self injected
El Guapo ------- screwed
Purge ------ Cained
Unagi ------- broken
Qantaga ------- deactivated
RMC ------ hammered

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:45 am

Ha! Trifecta!

Theohall is Cavil. This actually explains a lot. Nice job hiding in plain sight Theo. You would have gotten away with it too if wasn't for those meddling kids.

Time to get our third cylon in a row.

Theohall

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:55 am

I made a recording of Starbuck's last words.

I protected BB last night, he is the real deal..Or at least human,

Here are my protections:
Night 1 - Me
Night 2 - You (Austin)
Night 3 - Unagi - if someone had waited, we would not have wasted that scan..
Night 4 - BB

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:56 am

Theohall

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:05 am

Theo

Nice that he was on my short list the Newcastle.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:16 am

theohall

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:22 am

Day 4
1 theohall ---------- ---
2 bb2112 ---------- theohall ---
3 Newcastle ---------- Austin --- theohall
4 Revhempus71 ---------- ---
5 Austin ---------- theohall ---
6 Scoop ---------- ---
7 stessier ---------- theohall ---
.
.
theohall -- 4 --------- BB2112, Austin. Stessier, Newcastle
-- ---------
-- ----------
-- --------
-- ----------
-- ----------
-- ----------

Majority = 4 Voting Closed
Deadline is: Friday Feb 24, 9PM CST

tru1cy -------- strangled
Remus West -------- Put down
Grundbegriff ------- bashed
Chaosraven ------- self injected
El Guapo ------- screwed
Purge ------ Cained
Unagi ------- broken
Qantaga ------- deactivated
RMC ------ hammered

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:24 am

stessier wrote: Theo

Nice that he was on my short list the Newcastle.

you have no idea how close you were to getting shot.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:26 am

Newcastle wrote:
stessier wrote: Theo

Nice that he was on my short list the Newcastle.

you have no idea how close you were to getting shot.

Actually, I think I do. I told you it was the wrong choice.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:28 am

stessier wrote:
Newcastle wrote:
stessier wrote: Theo

Nice that he was on my short list the Newcastle.

you have no idea how close you were to getting shot.
Actually, I think I do. I told you it was the wrong choice.

no, no you dont.