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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:57 pm
by Defiant
While I don't expect Venn diagrams to be to scale, that is a very bizarre one. I mean you can tell what it's trying to say, but that isn't what it is saying.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:34 pm
by Moliere

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 5:56 pm
by Max Peck
Isgrimnur wrote:So, like, 50% of gun owners aren't Americans?

Venn diagrams, how do they work?
Since the graphic isn't a Venn diagram, are the workings of Venn diagrams pertinent to the claim that 90% of Americans, and 83% of gun-owners (reasonably presumed to be Americans) support universal background checks (reasonably presumed to be for the purpose of purchasing a firearm)? Or does a graphic design with overlapping circles magically become a Venn diagram because the viewer happens to know about Venn diagrams? In that case, shouldn't you be out there setting the IOC and Mastercard straight too?

Or were you just being Snarky McSnarkface because it's Friday and you won't get to go back to work until Monday? Because I'm totally feeling snarky because it's Friday, and I don't get to go back to work until never, and weekends no longer feel special. :(

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:34 pm
by Rip
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:53 pm
by Defiant
Max Peck wrote: Since the graphic isn't a Venn diagram, are the workings of Venn diagrams pertinent to the claim that 90% of Americans, and 83% of gun-owners (reasonably presumed to be Americans) support universal background checks (reasonably presumed to be for the purpose of purchasing a firearm)? Or does a graphic design with overlapping circles magically become a Venn diagram because the viewer happens to know about Venn diagrams? In that case, shouldn't you be out there setting the IOC and Mastercard straight too?

While i suppose it could just be a random background design that has nothing to do with the words, to me it pretty clearly impies that it's trying to be a Venn Diagram, in particular since it's related to subsets of sets.

Of course, it comes off about as convincingly as this "dog":

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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:41 pm
by GreenGoo
I read the posts questioning the Venn diagram before I saw it. I went back to find it, fully expecting that Isgrim et al would be mostly correct, but after looking at it for two seconds, it's clearly not a Venn diagram. While I understand why people would look at it and say it's a Venn diagram fail, that was not my initial impression nor my final impression after looking at it.

Sure, maybe, it was an attempt to show a great deal of overlap between the gun owners and non-gun owners, but if it was, it was completely broken. So much so that I didn't even think it was, and only because people were discussing it did it register, for me. Again, I can see why some would call it a crappy Venn diagram because it takes the form of one at first glance, but the words put that to rest pretty much immediately.

In any case, it's certainly supposed to represent a meeting in the middle of both sides of the aisle on this topic, but that's more of a graphic design thing than mathematical representation.

Ok, too many words for this. It's a dumb image no matter your viewpoint.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:51 pm
by Isgrimnur
But apparently we're getting into Euler diagrams.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:19 pm
by Kasey Chang
It's a bit passe to make fun of Ted Cruz, but... check out this website.

http://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com/

Don't worry, you can finish reading it in 60 seconds.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:58 pm
by Defiant
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:58 pm
by hepcat
:lol:

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:48 pm
by Defiant
I think I've spotted a photo of Sanders.

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:ninja:

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:58 pm
by Max Peck
Defiant wrote:I think I've spotted a photo of Sanders.

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:ninja:
Yeah, that looks like him on the right (ironically). The White Knight himself. But what are you trying to say about Hillary, what with her arms off and all?

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:32 pm
by Defiant
Max Peck wrote:
Defiant wrote:I think I've spotted a photo of Sanders.

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:ninja:
Yeah, that looks like him on the right (ironically). The White Knight himself. But what are you trying to say about Hillary, what with her arms off and all?
That he attacks 'armless people, rather than go after the real villain?
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:17 pm
by Defiant
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:02 pm
by hepcat
I'm stealing everything you're posting lately. :lol:

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:05 pm
by Defiant
hepcat wrote:I'm stealing everything you're posting lately. :lol:
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:19 pm
by Isgrimnur
This site can’t be reached
refused to connect.
Search Google for sherv net emoticons thanks bow down thank you smiley emoticon
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:40 pm
by Defiant
Isgrimnur wrote:
This site can’t be reached
refused to connect.
Search Google for sherv net emoticons thanks bow down thank you smiley emoticon
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Hepcat, at least wait a while so others can see it before stealing it

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 9:45 am
by hepcat
Odd, I tried posting that on my facebook page yesterday and it wouldn't allow it. Told me it was questionable content. But today I tried again and it went through. :?

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:17 am
by Moliere
hepcat wrote:Odd, I tried posting that on my facebook page yesterday and it wouldn't allow it. Told me it was questionable content. But today I tried again and it went through. :?
Were you a registered Republican yesterday?

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 6:53 pm
by hepcat
:D

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:04 pm
by Enough
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 10:34 am
by Rip
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:16 pm
by Max Peck
Looks like Rip has moved on from his Clinton fetish to something new. From this last post, I'd say that he has trouble stranding up any time a woman wearing a hijab walks by. Full on burka? Rip'll be in his bunk...

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:49 pm
by Vorret
Rip wrote:Image
I'm not going to google this but is this fact? I mean the mandatory for both sexes?

It's kinda sick that in 2016 we're still mutilating genitals :shock:

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:41 pm
by Holman
Vorret wrote: I'm not going to google this but is this fact? I mean the mandatory for both sexes?
No.

Male circumcision is customary for Islamic men just as it is for Jews. Female circumcision is practiced by extremely conservative groups (meaning ISIS and Boko Haram, not the uptight mosque downtown). It is not religiously mandated, and it's forbidden by mainstream Islamic religious authorities.

In the parts of the world where female genital mutilation is common (e.g. Nigeria), it is as widespread among Christians as among other groups.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:42 pm
by Max Peck
Vorret wrote:I'm not going to google this but is this fact? I mean the mandatory for both sexes?

It's kinda sick that in 2016 we're still mutilating genitals :shock:
Sort of, but (Shockingly!) it really isn't what Rip and his ilk would have you believe.

As I understand it (I am not a religous scholar nor an anthropologist), male circumcision (khitan) is pretty much mainstream Islam, but isn't universally compulsory. Female circumcision (khafd), perhaps more properly described as female genital mutilation, is also a thing, but it isn't a mainstream Islamic practice. It appears to be a regional custom in a part of Africa that is practiced by Muslims, Christians and others, which implies that it predates the arrival of the Abrahamic religions in that area.

Edit: Oh noes! I've been isgrimnured by Holman...

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 2:58 pm
by GreenGoo
Not to mention the "ceremony" often happens right around puberty (ie. fully aware of the torture), outside of a hospital (no sanitary conditions, emergency services or medical professionals), by a female villager who has obtained the honor of slicing the genitals of young girls with a sharp piece of slate.

It's monstrous.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:12 pm
by Rip
Holman wrote:
Vorret wrote: I'm not going to google this but is this fact? I mean the mandatory for both sexes?
No.

Male circumcision is customary for Islamic men just as it is for Jews. Female circumcision is practiced by extremely conservative groups (meaning ISIS and Boko Haram, not the uptight mosque downtown). It is not religiously mandated, and it's forbidden by mainstream Islamic religious authorities.

In the parts of the world where female genital mutilation is common (e.g. Nigeria), it is as widespread among Christians as among other groups.
Egypt?

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:19 pm
by Holman
It's common in Egypt, but when it's been outlawed by the government and condemned by Islamic religious authorities you can't exactly call it "Muslim teaching."

Many of the people fighting to end it in Egypt are themselves Muslims.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:27 pm
by Rip
Holman wrote:It's common in Egypt, but when it's been outlawed by the government and condemned by Islamic religious authorities you can't exactly call it "Muslim teaching."

Many of the people fighting to end it in Egypt are themselves Muslims.
Nor would I. But apparently some Muslims do, according to where I got it.

http://www.foreigndesknews.com/lisas-de ... efits-fgm/

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:31 pm
by GreenGoo
People believe all kinds of crazy shit.

edit: Whoops, I actually thought I pulled the pic before hitting submit. Sorry about that. No reason for Googlebot to associate OO with those monsters.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:37 pm
by Max Peck
Rip wrote:
Holman wrote:It's common in Egypt, but when it's been outlawed by the government and condemned by Islamic religious authorities you can't exactly call it "Muslim teaching."

Many of the people fighting to end it in Egypt are themselves Muslims.
Nor would I. But apparently some Muslims do, according to where I got it.

http://www.foreigndesknews.com/lisas-de ... efits-fgm/
Meh, the internet is full of things posted by idiots and ideologues who believe all sorts of patently stupid shit.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:41 pm
by Isgrimnur
Max Peck wrote:Edit: Oh noes! I've been isgrimnured by Holman...
I love that I've become a verb. :D

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:54 pm
by Max Peck
Isgrimnur wrote:
Max Peck wrote:Edit: Oh noes! I've been isgrimnured by Holman...
I love that I've become a verb. :D
Not just any old verb, either, but an idiomatic verb with multiple forms and definitions:
  1. to isgrimnur: to research and answer a question, providing citations and references.
  2. to be isgrimnured: to attempt to answer a question, only to be preempted by another answer that is submitted in the period of time required to compose one's own answer.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Sun May 29, 2016 6:43 pm
by Kraken
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 11:28 am
by msduncan
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Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 1:08 pm
by stessier
Kraken wrote:Enlarge Image
I lol'd.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Mon May 30, 2016 1:14 pm
by Max Peck
Kraken wrote:Enlarge Image
Obviously a socialist, waiting for someone else to come along and solve the problem for them. Anyone with an ounce of initiative and a bit of gumption would just figure out how to flip the "On" switch for the Yellowstone Caldera. Problem super-solved.

Re: Pictures for R&P

Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:22 pm
by Moliere
Holman wrote:It's common in Egypt, but when it's been outlawed by the government and condemned by Islamic religious authorities you can't exactly call it "Muslim teaching."

Many of the people fighting to end it in Egypt are themselves Muslims.
Egyptian girl dies during banned female genital mutilation operation