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Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:20 am
by Rip
The previously secret emails of former U.S. secretary of state and current favorite to be the Democratic contender for the U.S. president Hillary Rodham Clinton are a bonanza for those seeking to discern her non-public face and those of her closest advisers with respect to Israel.
With more than 30,000 emails released, drip, drip, drip since December, 2014, there’s a lot to plow through.
But one omnipresent correspondent of Clinton’s, her former advisor Sidney Blumenthal, stands out as he harps away at two issues close to his heart: one, Israel, the object of deep hostility, and the other, his son Max, a source of immense pride. That one’s son is a source of pride to a father is neither surprising nor shameful. But most of what Blumenthal promotes about his son Max is the never-ending fusillade of hate screeds written by the son in frequently obscure outlets which are directed at the other Blumenthal obsession: Israel.
In the batch released over the weekend, several Blumenthal emails attacks on Israel stand out in particular. One offers advice to Clinton on how to make both the Jewish State and the largest American pro-Israel organization, AIPAC, bend to her will.
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breakin ... 016/03/02/

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:56 pm
by hepcat
When she wins, you're going to have to bend to her will too.

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:35 pm
by Moliere
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:55 pm
by Defiant
Rip wrote:
But one omnipresent correspondent of Clinton’s, her former advisor Sidney Blumenthal, stands out as he harps away at two issues close to his heart: one, Israel, the object of deep hostility, and the other, his son Max, a source of immense pride. That one’s son is a source of pride to a father is neither surprising nor shameful. But most of what Blumenthal promotes about his son Max is the never-ending fusillade of hate screeds written by the son in frequently obscure outlets which are directed at the other Blumenthal obsession: Israel.
To be sure, this has troubled me (less so if he is one of a number of advisers Clinton has on Israel that come with different perspectives, much more so if he's the only one). But Clinton has had a good track record when it comes to Israel that doesn't mirror this. And of the four candidates that have a realistic shot at the Presidency, she's far and away better on Israel than any of the others, IMO.
In the land of the blind, you know the rest.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:06 pm
by Defiant
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:13 am
by Rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmxiCi7l7y0
Somebody call the riot squad. Those Hillary supporters are getting riled up.

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:01 am
by hepcat
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:57 pm
by Defiant
Clinton Hot Mic Snafu
Reminds me of someone else, who once said: "I think we might be talking about a .22 caliber mind in a .357 magnum world."
(Edited to make clear the quote isn't from Clinton)
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:00 pm
by El Guapo
Defiant wrote:Clinton Hot Mic Snafu
"I think we might be talking about a .22 caliber mind in a .357 magnum world."
I gotta say she lucked out in terms of the conversation that got caught on a hot mic. I'm sure every candidate has a thousand conversations that would blow up if they were inadvertently broadcasted.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:00 pm
by hepcat
I'm pretty sure she just went up in the polls for democrats and sane human beings outside the party.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:04 pm
by Defiant
hepcat wrote:I'm pretty sure she just went up in the polls for democrats and sane human beings outside the party.
Hence my quote.

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:05 pm
by El Guapo
Defiant wrote:hepcat wrote:I'm pretty sure she just went up in the polls for democrats and sane human beings outside the party.
Hence my quote.

Seeing as how I'm from suburban Boston, I don't really know enough about guns and calibers and whatnot to really follow the full import of the quote.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:09 pm
by hepcat
I saw the word "magnum" and just thought he was bragging about condoms again.

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:09 pm
by Defiant
El Guapo wrote:Defiant wrote:hepcat wrote:I'm pretty sure she just went up in the polls for democrats and sane human beings outside the party.
Hence my quote.

Seeing as how I'm from suburban Boston, I don't really know enough about guns and calibers and whatnot to really follow the full import of the quote.
It's a quote from an episode of the West Wing, where something mildly similar happens.
No sir, it didn't turn out too bad at all. In fact, the whole country's talking about whether Ritchie's smart enough to be President. And you didn't take hit, 'cause it was an accident. You know, it occurs to me that even your choice of language was interesting. "A .22 caliber mind, in a .357 magnum world." That's unusual for you, a gun metaphor. Toby mentioned to me that when each interview was over, all the interviewers wanted to talk to you about was Ritchie, and you took a pass each time. Until Philadelphia. Mr. President, is it possible you saw that the green light was on?
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:12 pm
by ImLawBoy
Not having watched West Wing, and before I actually clicked through to the story, I assumed the gun quote was what Hillary actually said.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:14 pm
by Defiant
You guys really have to watch the West Wing. I'm judging you. (I'll fix the quote up to make it clear that it's not from her)
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:17 pm
by ImLawBoy
I barely have any time to watch new TV shows, much less old TV shows.
I thought the leaked conversation itself was very interesting. It definitely humanizes her a bit.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:30 pm
by hepcat
Defiant wrote:You guys really have to watch the West Wing. I'm judging you. (I'll fix the quote up to make it clear that it's not from her)
I have to admit, I'm not a fan of Aaron Sorkin.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:41 pm
by Isgrimnur
It's like I don't even know you. There's no better show than SportsNight and Studio 60 deserved life over 30 Rock.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:42 pm
by El Guapo
Isgrimnur wrote:It's like I don't even know you. There's no better show than SportsNight and Studio 60 deserved life over 30 Rock.
Imma let you finish, and SportsNight and West Wing were great, but 30 Rock is one of the greatest sitcoms of all time.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:48 pm
by hepcat
Isgrimnur wrote:It's like I don't even know you. There's no better show than SportsNight and Studio 60 deserved life over 30 Rock.
Please. You know me. And you know I only watch something if there's a reasonable chance it will include scenes of a monkey dressed in a suit and telling off color jokes.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:50 pm
by Isgrimnur
Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan are horrible. Even Alec Baldwin couldn't make me want to watch that show.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:51 pm
by Isgrimnur
hepcat wrote:Isgrimnur wrote:It's like I don't even know you. There's no better show than SportsNight and Studio 60 deserved life over 30 Rock.
Please. You know me. And you know I only watch something if there's a reasonable chance it will include scenes of a monkey dressed in a suit and telling off color jokes.
Studio 60 was a riff on SNL. That was highly possible if it had lived longer.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:52 pm
by ImLawBoy
El Guapo wrote:Isgrimnur wrote:It's like I don't even know you. There's no better show than SportsNight and Studio 60 deserved life over 30 Rock.
Imma let you finish, and SportsNight and West Wing were great, but 30 Rock is one of the greatest sitcoms of all time.
Yeah, I watched both Studio 60 and 30 Rock. While Studio 60 deserved better than it got, 30 Rock is in the pantheon of great sitcoms.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:52 pm
by El Guapo
Isgrimnur wrote:Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan are horrible. Even Alec Baldwin couldn't make me want to watch that show.
You are dead to me. Now I'm glad that you foolishly passed up the opportunity to buy the condo above me in my house!
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:01 pm
by hepcat
I...uh...only watched a couple episodes of 30 Rock myself.

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:07 pm
by Defiant
I liked WW, Studio 60 and Newsroom, though I only watched one episode of sports night and I don't remember enjoying it. Maybe I should give it another chance.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:36 pm
by Archinerd
hepcat wrote:I...uh...only watched a couple episodes of 30 Rock myself.

You should watch a couple more. I have a feeling you won't be able to get enough of Tracy Morgan/Jordan.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:08 pm
by hepcat
It's one of those shows everyone tells me I'd enjoy, but I just don't get around to watching it. But to be fair, I've got a really good, absurd comedy show playing out on national TV every night, so I just don't have the time right now.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:13 pm
by Jeff V
But what do you watch before the nightly news?
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:07 pm
by hepcat
Videos of people watching others play video games on their tablets.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:18 pm
by Jeff V
I'm going to disable the cams on both Kindles.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:25 pm
by hepcat
See that new hat on your house cat? Don't look too closely at it. That's all I'm gonna say.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:18 pm
by AWS260
To bring this thread back on topic...

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:20 am
by Defiant
Its a sweep

Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:34 pm
by Rip
Less than a month after becoming secretary of state, and registering the personal email domain that she would use exclusively for government business, Hillary Clinton’s team aggressively pursued changes to existing State Department security protocols so she could use her BlackBerry in secure facilities for classified information, according to new documents released under the Freedom of Information Act.
“Anyone who has any appreciation at all of security, you don’t ask a question like that,” cybersecurity analyst Morgan Wright told Fox News. “It is contempt for the system, contempt for the rules that are designed to protect the exact kind of information that was exposed through this email set up. “
Current and former intelligence officials grimaced when asked by Fox News about the use of wireless communications devices, such as a BlackBerry, in a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) emphasizing its use would defeat the purpose of the secure facility, and it is standard practice to leave all electronics outside.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03 ... tcmp=hpbt3
Holy crap, I knew she was a moron but still. Did no one pull her aside and just tell her what a ridiculously stupid idea that was?
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:43 pm
by GreenGoo
I'll just say that it boggles the mind that the same people yelling auschwitz and go back to Africa are capable of understanding why what Hillary did was wrong. I mean, facts literally don't matter, and are often sneered at by Trump supporters.
Rip, I'll make it easy for you. Stop with this "evidence" nonsense. No one cares about it and the people that will vote for Trump can't understand it anyway. Just tell everyone Hillary is the anti-christ and if you get questioned on it just throw out a quip about the other person's appearance or how fabulous you are, and you're done.
Talk about easy.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:22 pm
by Rip
GreenGoo wrote:I'll just say that it boggles the mind that the same people yelling auschwitz and go back to Africa are capable of understanding why what Hillary did was wrong. I mean, facts literally don't matter, and are often sneered at by Trump supporters.
Rip, I'll make it easy for you. Stop with this "evidence" nonsense. No one cares about it and the people that will vote for Trump can't understand it anyway. Just tell everyone Hillary is the anti-christ and if you get questioned on it just throw out a quip about the other person's appearance or how fabulous you are, and you're done.
Talk about easy.
Evidence? What are you talking about?
The only thing this is evidence of is that she doesn't understand nor do her people it would appear the slightest basic thing about intel and electronic eavesdropping. Do you not see the sheer idiocy of trying to force security people to let you take an electronic communications device into a
SCIF facility?
Or do you not believe her and her staff tried to do this? Because the fact they did are well
documented public knowledge now.
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:05 pm
by Rip
She is the modern day
Andrew J. May
Re: The Hillary Clinton thread
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:10 pm
by Zarathud
Condi Rice had a Blackberry, but the NSA didn't want to deal with Hillary Clinton demanding one too? I'm sorry, Rip, this looks like Hillary cutting her way through all the bullshit you complain about the government bureaucracy. Trump had better not stand between Hillary and her Blackberry!