Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:49 pm
This was actually on the front page of Fox News. It wasn't the headline, but it was there. Color me surprised.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
It's absolutely NOTHING compared to the things Bill said on the golf course.Captain Caveman wrote:I'm pretty sure most people already realized Trump was a philandering scumbag, but having it on tape does make it a bit more real. And even more damaging is his bragging about using his celebrity and power to kiss and fondle women. I'm guessing that's the angle that's going to hurt him the most.
I'll be really curious to see how other GOP leaders respond. Paul Ryan is set to campaign with Trump tomorrow...
And seriously, wtf. The Donald just admitted sexual assault, I hope some starlet he fondled now sues him and this can help establish precedent that the wannabe president is a proto-dick.Paul Ryan, soon: "I do not support grabbing women by the pussy, but I fully support the Republican candidate for President."
I actually believe him when he says this. I don't know why. And it definitely changes my view of Bill. But as the CNN talking head said, Bill's already been president. It doesn't matter what he did or didn't do at this point. This is about Drumpf.Unagi wrote: It's absolutely NOTHING compared to the things Bill said on the golf course.
Wow. Has PETA complained about his treatments of cats yet?“Grab them by the p---y,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
One of his ex-wives filed rape charges against him. Disgraced Fox CEO Roger Ailes left Fox only to immediately join Drumpf's organization. That alone would sink a normal politician, but with Drumpf, it's not even on the radar because of all the other ludicrous scandals he's involved in on a nearly daily basis.Enough wrote:I like the comment on Reddit,
And seriously, wtf. The Donald just admitted sexual assault, I hope some starlet he fondled now sues him and this can help establish precedent that the wannabe president is a proto-dick.Paul Ryan, soon: "I do not support grabbing women by the pussy, but I fully support the Republican candidate for President."
They don't care. They just don't.Kurth wrote:Well . . . there's your candidate, religious right, and family values voters, and evangelicals, and women, and decent human beings.
Can they really vote for him after this? He can't run away from this. And it's not locker room banter - it was said to a reporter (granted, an Access Hollywood reporter).
Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse.
The BBC (who actually quoted him verbatim, with no euphemisms) seems to believe that it will come up on Sunday.Unagi wrote:So, this brings an interesting option for the Sunday night debates.
Is 'grabbing pussy' clean enough to even expose to the public at large - and ask him to answer to?
Holy cow.
Trump is such creep, to show it all to the public; ones at risk of seeming totally vulgar.
For a normal debate, I don't see a moderator bringing it up. With the town-hall format, I guess it depends on whether someone in the audience has the cojones to stand up and call him out on it.Donald Trump has often found himself in hot water for public comments he's made about women over the years. It turns out he's said lewd and disparaging things in private as well. Go figure.
The videotape release comes at a most inopportune time for the Republican nominee, who was trying to use his running mate's well-received debate performance on Tuesday to reboot his campaign after a week of distractions and controversy. On Wednesday he told a local news interviewer that his previous offensive comments about women - which have dogged his campaign since the first Republican primary debate last August - were made for the "purpose of entertainment".
That explanation doesn't fit with the boorish, newly married Trump shown on the video privately boasting about his efforts to seduce a married woman and have his way with whomever he pleases.
Now Mr Trump will enter Sunday's debate with a new cloud hanging over his candidacy. It's almost certain that one of the town hall participants will ask him about it. There may be no easy way to respond - but Mr Trump will have to find an acceptable answer. If he bungles it, everything else he says during the 90-minute debate won't matter.
In hindsight, yes. And if it were from any other candidate it would be no big deal. But from a guy who's made it a point to make the Clinton marriage an issue? It's..................tjg_marantz wrote:It was just locker room banter. Come on guys.
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Default wrote:Ask them why they are taking the deal that Christ turned down?
The moderators are Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz. I could see either one of them referencing the hot mic tape in the context of electoral questions about Trump and female supporters. The difference now is that Trump can't easily evade the issue with a quip or a simple pivot. He'll feel cornered, so he'll double down and probably attack Bill pretty harshly. You can be sure Hillary is prepared to make him pay for that.Max Peck wrote: For a normal debate, I don't see a moderator bringing it up. With the town-hall format, I guess it depends on whether someone in the audience has the cojones to stand up and call him out on it.
+1!Unagi wrote:Default wrote:Ask them why they are taking the deal that Christ turned down?
CNN was playing it in its entirety with no editing and only a mild warning.Max Peck wrote: The BBC (who actually quoted him verbatim, with no euphemisms) seems to believe that it will come up on Sunday.
"How many women have you grabbed by the pussy?"Defiant wrote:IIUC, the questions submitted to the Town Hall cannot name candidates, and have to be a question that can be asked of either candidate (IIUC, the questioner won't know which one it's asked of)
Yeah...that's not a line of attack you want to attempt publicly. Not if you don't want to be eaten alive, anyway.Rip wrote:With this out there Hillary won't know whether tho debate him or marry him.
Better. Things just got better.Kurth wrote:Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse.
I think you misunderstand the offended parties.Max Peck wrote: With the town-hall format, I guess it depends on whether someone in the audience has the cojones to stand up and call him out on it.
You should know by now I don't do fear.GreenGoo wrote:Yeah...that's not a line of attack you want to attempt publicly. Not if you don't want to be eaten alive, anyway.Rip wrote:With this out there Hillary won't know whether tho debate him or marry him.
The odd language aside ("Women are to be championed and revered" by whom? Are women not part of Ryan's audience?), it appears that Trump has been kicked rather than withdrawing by choice.“I am sickened by what I heard today,” Ryan said in a statement. “Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. I hope Mr. Trump treats this situation with the seriousness it deserves and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater respect for women than this clip suggests. In the meantime, he is no longer attending tomorrow’s event in Wisconsin.”
That was deliberately ironic* verbiage.Blackhawk wrote:I think you misunderstand the offended parties.Max Peck wrote: With the town-hall format, I guess it depends on whether someone in the audience has the cojones to stand up and call him out on it.
Interestingly, Pence will be taking his place. And now Huntsman, who had just begrudgingly endorsed Trump ten days ago, has called for Trump to drop out and let Pence run in his place.Holman wrote:Tomorrow's Ryan-Trump appearance in Wisconsin is actually a Ryan event. Ryan just announced that Trump won't be attending.
The odd language aside ("Women are to be championed and revered" by whom? Are women not part of Ryan's audience?), it appears that Trump has been kicked rather than withdrawing by choice.“I am sickened by what I heard today,” Ryan said in a statement. “Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. I hope Mr. Trump treats this situation with the seriousness it deserves and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater respect for women than this clip suggests. In the meantime, he is no longer attending tomorrow’s event in Wisconsin.”
You're confusing fear with common sense again.Rip wrote:You should know by now I don't do fear.GreenGoo wrote:Yeah...that's not a line of attack you want to attempt publicly. Not if you don't want to be eaten alive, anyway.Rip wrote:With this out there Hillary won't know whether tho debate him or marry him.
My fault, then. I have respect for them, but I never studied the language of the Verbi.Max Peck wrote: That was deliberately ironic* verbiage.
Lol, ok, I can see I made a mistake engaging your comment at all. Enjoy yourself.Rip wrote:You should know by now I don't do fear.GreenGoo wrote:Yeah...that's not a line of attack you want to attempt publicly. Not if you don't want to be eaten alive, anyway.Rip wrote:With this out there Hillary won't know whether tho debate him or marry him.
The only reason it would bother them is a knowledge it is based on truth.
Trump showing humility and stepping down? Even my imagination doesn't stretch that far.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot.
McConnell joined a growing list of Senate Republicans who sought to distance themselves from Trump's comments Friday night.
"These comments are repugnant, and unacceptable in any circumstance," McConnell said. "As the father of three daughters, I strongly believe that Trump needs to apologize directly to women and girls everywhere, and take full responsibility for the utter lack of respect for women shown in his comments on that tape."
Trump does what's best for Trump, no matter who it hurts. That's easily verified.Defiant wrote:Trump showing humility and stepping down? Even my imagination doesn't stretch that far.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot.
This crossed my mind as well. And there might not be enough time before the election to get all Pence's skeletons out in the open for everyone to be shocked by. While he's probably better than Drumpf, he's not good.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot. One the one hand it would be great that Trump is gone. But on the other hand I think Pence would have a good shot at winning...
My scenario was more that Pence would step down, go to Ryan's fundraiser and announce he and Ryan agree that blah, de blah. Ultimate power move, firing the Donald.Defiant wrote:Trump showing humility and stepping down? Even my imagination doesn't stretch that far.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot.
Would Pence automatically take the spot if Trump did decide to drop out?Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot. One the one hand it would be great that Trump is gone. But on the other hand I think Pence would have a good shot at winning...