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Skinypupy wrote:

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot. One the one hand it would be great that Trump is gone. But on the other hand I think Pence would have a good shot at winning...

Would Pence automatically take the spot if Trump did decide to drop out?

I honestly have no idea what that process would be.

Isgrimnur wrote:And the first winner is... Utah!

Rep Jason Chaffetz has retracted his support for Trump.

Defiant wrote:

Isgrimnur wrote:And the first winner is... Utah!

Rep Jason Chaffetz has retracted his support for Trump.

Utah governor also withdraws his support

Isgrimnur wrote:Don't count your Trumps before they hatchet him.

Isgrimnur wrote:Don't count your Trumps before they hatchet him.

Skinypupy wrote:

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot. One the one hand it would be great that Trump is gone. But on the other hand I think Pence would have a good shot at winning...

Would Pence automatically take the spot if Trump did decide to drop out?

I honestly have no idea what that process would be.

hepcat wrote:

Rip wrote:

GreenGoo wrote:

Rip wrote:With this out there Hillary won't know whether tho debate him or marry him.

Yeah...that's not a line of attack you want to attempt publicly. Not if you don't want to be eaten alive, anyway.

You should know by now I don't do fear.

You're confusing fear with common sense again.

Anyway.

It's freaking hilarious to read about this and then listen to evangelicals trumpet his faith and family values.

hepcat wrote:

Skinypupy wrote:

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Imagine if Trump stepped down and let Pence take his spot. One the one hand it would be great that Trump is gone. But on the other hand I think Pence would have a good shot at winning...

Would Pence automatically take the spot if Trump did decide to drop out?

I honestly have no idea what that process would be.

In this election, I wouldn't be surprised if they held a Gamesters of Triskellion style trial by combat.

"I've never said I'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I'm not. I've said and done things I regret, and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video are one of them. Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize," Trump said in a brief video statement released late Friday night as a number of prominent Republicans distanced themselves yet again from their presidential nominee.

Trump said that the lewd comments -- which were made public by The Washington Post on Friday afternoon -- are "a distraction from the important issues we are facing today." He then attacked his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and her husband, former president Bill Clinton.

"I've said some foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women, and Hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims," Trump said. "We will discuss this more in the coming days. See you at the debate on Sunday."

Papa Smurph wrote:
The only people who could support Trump now are either misogynist or racists or hypocrites of the worst kind.

gameoverman wrote:Of all the reasons people would have to distance themselves from Trump. an old recording is the one they choose? I don't get it. It's his character, it's who he is. The people who like him, who'll vote for him, won't be bothered by this. If anything it probably humanizes him more to those people.

Linzer’s chart helps explain a weird quirk of this election. For the most part, Clinton’s lead over Trump has been larger than the one President Obama had over Mitt Romney at comparable points in the campaign. Yet, at those moments, Clinton’s chances of winning have been lower than Obama’s were, according to our forecasts. That’s because of the larger third-party and undecided vote this year, which is why it’s important not only to pay attention to the margin between Trump and Clinton, but also to the percentage that each candidate is getting. Four years ago, Obama was regularly in the upper 40s, while Clinton has generally been stuck in the low-to-mid 40s. If the gap between Clinton and Trump narrowed by a point or two, it wouldn’t hurt her much — as long as she moved closer to getting 50 percent of the vote.

To illustrate this, let’s cut the number of third-party and undecided voters in half, distributing them equally between Clinton and Trump. In that scenario, our model would peg Clinton as a stronger favorite. Instead of winning 78 percent of the time in our polls-only forecast, she would win 85 percent of the time. In our nowcast, which projects the results in a hypothetical election held today, Clinton’s chances jump from 86 percent to 93 percent. And in our polls-plus forecast — our most conservative model — Clinton’s chances go from 75 percent to 80 percent.

The clear uptick in Clinton’s odds in these scenarios is worth keeping in mind as we head into the second debate, on Sunday. Although Clinton would benefit from a wider margin between Trump and herself, she would also benefit if more voters made up their mind — even if those undecideds split evenly between the major-party nominees. The opposite is true for Trump. He would benefit if he could shrink the margin, but he should at the very least hope to make voters think twice before committing to either candidate.

$iljanus wrote:Breaking news from WaPo, the Trumpology:

"I've never said I'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I'm not. I've said and done things I regret, and the words released today on this more than a decade-old video are one of them. Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong, and I apologize," Trump said in a brief video statement released late Friday night as a number of prominent Republicans distanced themselves yet again from their presidential nominee.

Trump said that the lewd comments -- which were made public by The Washington Post on Friday afternoon -- are "a distraction from the important issues we are facing today." He then attacked his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and her husband, former president Bill Clinton.

"I've said some foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women, and Hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victims," Trump said. "We will discuss this more in the coming days. See you at the debate on Sunday."

McConnell joined a growing list of Senate Republicans who sought to distance themselves from Trump's comments Friday night.

"These comments are repugnant, and unacceptable in any circumstance," McConnell said. "As the father of three daughters, I strongly believe that Trump needs to apologize directly to women and girls everywhere, and take full responsibility for the utter lack of respect for women shown in his comments on that tape."

gameoverman wrote:That's the crazy thing about this election, there seems to be larger than usual amount of voters who aren't 'for' their candidate so much as they can't bear the thought of voting for the other candidate. That could have some kind of crazy effect on this election.

Papa Smurph wrote:The only people who could support Trump now are either misogynist or racists or hypocrites of the worst kind.

Unagi wrote:

Papa Smurph wrote:The only people who could support Trump now are either misogynist or racists or hypocrites of the worst kind.

Or Rip, Smutly, and Em2

RunningMn9 wrote:Under the circumstances, if you find this piece of human garbage less reprehensible than Clinton, that parks you safely into the bucket of misogynist or racist or hypocrite of the worst kind.

I'll be charitable and narrow that down to either misogynist or hypocrite, leaning towards hypocrite.


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Zaxxon wrote:So, misogynist then?

RunningMn9 wrote:I don't require you to do anything. You are free to support this piece of garbage for whatever reasons you'd like.

I'm also free to offer my opinion of you supporting this piece of garbage. My opinion doesn't mean anything of course. Maybe you're not a rube that's fallen prey to decades of bullshit political propaganda? Maybe you aren't a misogynist, prone to believe said propaganda because Clinton's a woman and you think she's a bitch?

Either way, the fact of the matter is that you've chosen to support this piece of garbage for whatever reason. You've chosen to support a dangerously unqualified narcissist to lead this country.

And that doesn't reflect well on you, to put it mildly. I guess you might as well go down with the ship now.

malchior wrote:[smug]Most people would have the common sense to not say they didn't care about this out loud - so bravo![/smug]

Smutly wrote: Please, save your charity and give it to someone who needs it. One thing about this forum is that we all very quick to judge. If you require me to make a statement for every stupid thing Trump says or does then you can forget it because I don't have the time. I already knew that he was a brash, loud-mouth asshole so I am not shocked that he would say something like this. And yes, I know many other people who behave in immature juvenile sexually objectifying ways, but that doesn't make me one of them. I don't call you all idiots for not acknowledging (or, when your face is shoved into her pile of crap) barely acknowledging how corrupt she is and instead point at Trump as an excuse for your decisions. You ridicule me for stating that she is worse because I more heavily weight her complete abuse of the public's trust and don't equate Trump's behavior in the same way. We obviously disagree. The difference is that I'm not a complete condescending asshole, whereas "the liberals" here and abroad do so often. There are many, many articles on the hubris of liberal elitism and here's the TL;DR version: It works against your cause and, not surprisingly, makes you look like smug assholes. So, please continue...don't let me stop you.

$iljanus wrote:And since the Constitution doesn't dictate how a party chooses their candidate why the hell not, crazy outfits and quatloos included!

tgb wrote:

Smutly wrote: Please, save your charity and give it to someone who needs it. One thing about this forum is that we all very quick to judge. If you require me to make a statement for every stupid thing Trump says or does then you can forget it because I don't have the time. I already knew that he was a brash, loud-mouth asshole so I am not shocked that he would say something like this. And yes, I know many other people who behave in immature juvenile sexually objectifying ways, but that doesn't make me one of them. I don't call you all idiots for not acknowledging (or, when your face is shoved into her pile of crap) barely acknowledging how corrupt she is and instead point at Trump as an excuse for your decisions. You ridicule me for stating that she is worse because I more heavily weight her complete abuse of the public's trust and don't equate Trump's behavior in the same way. We obviously disagree. The difference is that I'm not a complete condescending asshole, whereas "the liberals" here and abroad do so often. There are many, many articles on the hubris of liberal elitism and here's the TL;DR version: It works against your cause and, not surprisingly, makes you look like smug assholes. So, please continue...don't let me stop you.

Not to rush to judgement or anything, but is it possible for you to reply to a post without coming off as a condescending jackass?

Isgrimnur wrote:

$iljanus wrote:And since the Constitution doesn't dictate how a party chooses their candidate why the hell not, crazy outfits and quatloos included!

They don't, but the states do. The deadline to get on the ballot for a certain office has passed. Some states are already into early voting. At this point, I don't see any way to shuffle the ballots, and if attempts are made, I imagine that the lawsuits will be legendary. I doubt even a split SCOTUS gives the GOP a leg on which to stand.

Smoove_B wrote: But seriously, if you pull a lever for Trump (or say, line your yard with Trump signs) I have to believe it's about the Supreme Court (and by extension abortion or gun rights). Because I can't believe you were a closeted deplorable that suddenly feels you're now free to let your freak flag fly.

Mitch T. McConnell wrote:McConnell joined a growing list of Senate Republicans who sought to distance themselves from supporting Trump Friday night.

"Our support for this deplorable piece of garbage was and is repugnant, and unacceptable in any circumstance," McConnell said. "As a Republican party leader, I strongly believe that we need to apologize directly to the American people, and take full responsibility for supporting this morally disgusting, ideologically pathological, dangerous threat to our country."