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Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:44 pm
by Kurth
waitingtoconnect wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:23 pm Order 66 is happening and no one is doing anything about it.
I finished the last season of The Clone Wars yesterday, and I had this exact thought.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:20 am
by Grifman
Thread on Musk’s people at OPM and what they have access to:

https://twitter.com/juddlegum/status/18 ... NcXCfN8s1g

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:25 am
by Unagi
No, thank you.
'click on this X thread.' is not a thing for me any more.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:30 am
by Holman
Unagi wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:25 am No, thank you.
'click on this X thread.' is not a thing for me any more.
Here's the Bluesky version:



Most reputable journalists still posting on Twitter have taken to posting the same material on Bluesky now.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:33 am
by LordMortis
+1 I really do appreciate the effort but Xhitter is so beyond done for me that I won't even go to unroller anymore.

OTHO, Judd Legum is on BS

https://bsky.app/profile/juddlegum.bsky.social

Edit: Bam...

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 2:50 pm
by Isgrimnur
Trump administration agrees to restrict DOGE access to Treasury Department payment systems
Attorneys for the Justice Department have agreed to temporarily restrict staffers associated with Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency from accessing information in the Treasury Department’s payment system.

The agreement comes after a group of union members and retirees sued the Treasury Department alleging that providing DOGE access to the federal government’s massive payment and collections system — and the personal data housed in it — violated federal privacy laws.

The Trump administration filed a motion Wednesday night seeking to enter a proposed order that detailed the agreed-upon terms.

"The Defendants will not provide access to any payment record or payment system of records maintained by or within the Bureau of the Fiscal Service," the proposed order says.

The order would allow exceptions for two special government employees at the Treasury — Tom Krause and Marko Elez — saying they are permitted access "as needed" to perform their duties, "provided that such access to payment records will be 'read only.'"

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly signed off on the agreement Thursday morning. The agreement will stay in place until she rules on the plaintiffs' request for a preliminary injunction, which will be the subject of a Feb. 24 hearing.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:33 pm
by Alefroth
I believe that will happen.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:41 pm
by LordMortis
Isn't the toothpaste already out of the barn? They've been in and left their marks, haven't they? The system is literally no longer secure is this GOP Administration already gave these "engineers" the keys to the kingdom for even 10 minutes.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:20 pm
by Max Peck
Let's see how this Bluesky embedding works...



I'm sure that Leon will take good care of him.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:40 pm
by Zarathud
Literally no longer secure. Heads should roll.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:43 pm
by WYBaugh
Why would he resign? Sounds like the making of a good resume for Elon and Trump

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:00 pm
by Holman
Max Peck wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:20 pm I'm sure that Leon will take good care of him.
Of course. These are Elon's views as well.

(Every time I see "Leon" for Musk I think of the opening scene of Blade Runner.)

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:06 pm
by Max Peck
WYBaugh wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:43 pm Why would he resign? Sounds like the making of a good resume for Elon and Trump
I'd guess that he's a kid who panicked when he was suddenly caught in the spotlight. A more seasoned operative would probably just ride it out. It isn't like his boss would fire him over it -- that sort of shitposting on Xitter is probably what got him the gig in the first place.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:12 pm
by Alefroth
If we want to get rid of these 'engineers' shouldn't we be exposing leftist Marxist ties?

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:16 pm
by Smoove_B
Everything is going great:
Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is letting artificial intelligence decide what ends up on the chopping block in the Department of Education, according to sources.

The Washington Post reported that Musk’s goon squad is leaning on AI to probe sensitive federal data, which includes personally identifiable information on who manages what grants, programs, as well as financial information, such as work trip expenses.

According to two sources who spoke to the Post on condition of anonymity, fearing reprisal, the AI software is accessed through Microsoft’s cloud Azure computing service. And staffers were instructed not to impede the team’s efforts.
Targeting DoE right now:
In a Thursday statement, Madi Biedermann, deputy assistant secretary for communications at the Education Department, vouched for DOGE representatives as federal employees who have been mandated to probe the department for cuts.

Biermann said they are “focused on making the Department more cost-efficient, effective, and accountable to the taxpayers.” She added, “There is nothing inappropriate or nefarious going on.”

Yet Alondra Nelson, who has worked on AI policy at the White House’s Office of Science and Technology Policy under the Biden administration, expressed concern about the lack of guardrails put on the technology.

“Do we want these tools unleashed in government and society without guardrails?” she told the Post. “There’s a lot of concern and mistrust about the use of AI in American society.”

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:22 pm
by Blackhawk
I took that for granted. The rate at which he's going through agencies shows that they aren't actually going through the data by hand.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:24 pm
by Smoove_B
I figured he was just scraping all the data to be sold/used at some point in the future and installing tools to gain future remote access.

Doing something with the data? I didn't think that was the point. Not yet, at least. But yeah, using AI schlock to reach an end goal makes sense. If you have three Rs in your name, maybe it won't detect you.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:42 pm
by gbasden
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:16 pm Everything is going great:
Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is letting artificial intelligence decide what ends up on the chopping block in the Department of Education, according to sources.

The Washington Post reported that Musk’s goon squad is leaning on AI to probe sensitive federal data, which includes personally identifiable information on who manages what grants, programs, as well as financial information, such as work trip expenses.

According to two sources who spoke to the Post on condition of anonymity, fearing reprisal, the AI software is accessed through Microsoft’s cloud Azure computing service. And staffers were instructed not to impede the team’s efforts.
If it's accessing it through Azure, it's most likely ChatGPT. Just what we want making decisions about critical items.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:45 pm
by Max Peck
gbasden wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:42 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:16 pm Everything is going great:
Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is letting artificial intelligence decide what ends up on the chopping block in the Department of Education, according to sources.

The Washington Post reported that Musk’s goon squad is leaning on AI to probe sensitive federal data, which includes personally identifiable information on who manages what grants, programs, as well as financial information, such as work trip expenses.

According to two sources who spoke to the Post on condition of anonymity, fearing reprisal, the AI software is accessed through Microsoft’s cloud Azure computing service. And staffers were instructed not to impede the team’s efforts.
If it's accessing it through Azure, it's most likely ChatGPT. Just what we want making decisions about critical items.
Nah, Leon hates ChatGPT -- it's too woke for the likes of him. He's been developing his own AI to compete with it, so whatever this is, it's probably much worse than ChatGPT.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:42 pm
by Pyperkub
Yeah, he calls it grok. (which, as a Heinlein fan annoys the hell of of me).

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:29 pm
by Kraken
Pyperkub wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:42 pm Yeah, he calls it grok. (which, as a Heinlein fan annoys the hell of of me).
+1. Another AI developer is working on a model called GARAK, which also cheeses me off in an admiring way.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:38 pm
by Smoove_B
Now infiltrating - the Department of Energy
A representative from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, was granted access to the Energy Department’s IT system on Wednesday by Energy Secretary Chris Wright, two people with knowledge of the situation told CNN.

Wright granted access to DOGE representative Luke Farritor — a 23-year-old former SpaceX intern — even over objections from members of the department’s general counsel and chief information offices, the people told CNN. The DOE chief information office is the department’s IT and cybersecurity office.

...

Farritor was granted access to basic IT including email and Microsoft 365, one of the people said. The chief information office only does a small amount of IT and cybersecurity work for the National Nuclear Security Administration, they said, including providing connectivity and running basic internet services for NNSA’s headquarters. It does not run IT systems for the nuclear agency’s labs controlling the nation’s nuclear stockpile.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:46 am
by LawBeefaroni
Max Peck wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:45 pm
gbasden wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:42 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:16 pm Everything is going great:
Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is letting artificial intelligence decide what ends up on the chopping block in the Department of Education, according to sources.

The Washington Post reported that Musk’s goon squad is leaning on AI to probe sensitive federal data, which includes personally identifiable information on who manages what grants, programs, as well as financial information, such as work trip expenses.

According to two sources who spoke to the Post on condition of anonymity, fearing reprisal, the AI software is accessed through Microsoft’s cloud Azure computing service. And staffers were instructed not to impede the team’s efforts.
If it's accessing it through Azure, it's most likely ChatGPT. Just what we want making decisions about critical items.
Nah, Leon hates ChatGPT -- it's too woke for the likes of him. He's been developing his own AI to compete with it, so whatever this is, it's probably much worse than ChatGPT.
MS/Azure doesn't use Grok.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:48 am
by LawBeefaroni
Max Peck wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:20 pm Let's see how this Bluesky embedding works...



I'm sure that Leon will take good care of him.
Unbelievable. Not surprising but unbelievable.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/06/nx-s1-52 ... e-treasury
The Wall Street Journal reported on a number of 2024 posts from an account connected to Elez on Musk's X platform and noted that White House officials confirmed his resignation after the paper pointed out Elez's activity on the social media site.

"You could not pay me to marry outside of my ethnicity," the account wrote in September. "Normalize Indian hate," a separate post from that month read.

In July of last year, the account posted: "Just for the record, I was racist before it was cool."

In other posts, from December, the account pushed for repealing the Civil Rights Act and shared: "I just want a eugenic immigration policy, is that too much to ask."

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:30 am
by hepcat
I mean, I love dark humor myself, but that's neither dark nor humor. Just exhibiting outright racism is a serious character flaw, for christ's sake.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:12 am
by Holman
There's no wedgie tight enough for these little DOGE shits.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:14 pm
by Zarathud
If they really cared about government efficiency, DOGE would ADD staffing so calling the IRS to confirm tax payment wouldn’t take 40-60 minutes of hold time. They cashed clients $750,000+ check but didn’t credit to his account or identify the return as filed.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:22 pm
by $iljanus
Max Peck wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2025 5:20 pm Let's see how this Bluesky embedding works...



I'm sure that Leon will take good care of him.
Wow, in the new regime he’s management material!

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:37 pm
by LawBeefaroni
$iljanus wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:22 pm

Wow, in the new regime he’s management material!
He said the quiet part out loud a bit too early. I'm sure he'll be hireable again once the regime is no longer handcuffed by the need for plausible deniability.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:51 pm
by Pyperkub
Zarathud wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:14 pm If they really cared about government efficiency, DOGE would ADD staffing so calling the IRS to confirm tax payment wouldn’t take 40-60 minutes of hold time. They cashed clients $750,000+ check but didn’t credit to his account or identify the return as filed.
They don't (care about Government efficiency). the stuff they are gutting is minimal WRT the budget. What they care about is creating a private industry monopoly substitute which will cost a LOT more, in order to extract value.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:10 pm
by Max Peck
But they won't even need the IRS once they eliminate income tax because the government is fully funded by tariffs, right? Right?

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:20 pm
by $iljanus
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:37 pm
$iljanus wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:22 pm

Wow, in the new regime he’s management material!
He said the quiet part out loud a bit too early. I'm sure he'll be hireable again once the regime is no longer handcuffed by the need for plausible deniability.
That should be soon. With DEI outlawed he'll no longer have to feel ashamed of his thoughts in the new colorblind America.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:25 pm
by LordMortis
Who needs tariffs once you privatize the military and roads and police and sanitation and water and fire and the courts protection agencies and...

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:34 pm
by Max Peck
LordMortis wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:25 pm Who needs tariffs once you privatize the military and roads and police and sanitation and water and fire and the courts protection agencies and...
Tariffs are a preferred method for extracting wealth from the masses and distributing it to the elite who own all those things. The duped serfs don't even know that they're funding it, because it's drilled into their head that the tariffs are being paid by foreigners. It's just that everything is expensive (because Emmanuel Goldstein) and you have to work that much harder to keep your head above water, but at least the government doesn't tax what you make.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:43 pm
by Alefroth
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:37 pm
$iljanus wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:22 pm

Wow, in the new regime he’s management material!
He said the quiet part out loud a bit too early. I'm sure he'll be hireable again once the regime is no longer handcuffed by the need for plausible deniability.
How about now?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/07/elon-mu ... staff.html
Vice President JD Vance called for the rehiring of a DOGE staffer who resigned from a sensitive Trump administration post over the exposure of tweets advocating for racism and eugenics.
Vance’s call came in a reply to a poll DOGE chief Elon Musk launched on his social media platform X asking users if Marko Elez should be rehired.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:44 pm
by Alefroth
What better way to govern than with social media polls?

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:51 pm
by $iljanus
Alefroth wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:43 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:37 pm
$iljanus wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:22 pm

Wow, in the new regime he’s management material!
He said the quiet part out loud a bit too early. I'm sure he'll be hireable again once the regime is no longer handcuffed by the need for plausible deniability.
How about now?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/07/elon-mu ... staff.html
Vice President JD Vance called for the rehiring of a DOGE staffer who resigned from a sensitive Trump administration post over the exposure of tweets advocating for racism and eugenics.
Vance’s call came in a reply to a poll DOGE chief Elon Musk launched on his social media platform X asking users if Marko Elez should be rehired.
That was quick and if he's rehired, efficient.
“Here’s my view: I obviously disagree with some of Elez’s posts, but I don’t think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid’s life,” Vance wrote in a tweet.

“We shouldn’t reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever,” said Vance, referring to the fact that The Wall Street Journal on Thursday exposed Elez’s connection to an X account that made the inflammatory tweets.

“So I say bring him back,” Vance wrote. “If he’s a bad dude or a terrible member of the team, fire him for that.”
I'd say that maybe a person who's vocal about such views shouldn't work in the Federal government which is supposed to represent all Americans. But that was before January 20. He's all good now since the Federal government now represents all the good Americans. You know who they are. An unapologetic racist reviewing government programs. Welcome to the new normal.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:57 pm
by hepcat
I agree with Vance. The only reason this kid should be cancelled is if he comes out as trans and tries to sell beer.

In other news, Time magazine has started the war we knew was coming with this upcoming cover.

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Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:59 pm
by Alefroth
I wonder how DOGE staffer Akash Bobba feels about his colleague's 'normalize Indian hate' statement.

Re: Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:04 pm
by Holman
Alefroth wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 2:59 pm I wonder how DOGE staffer Akash Bobba feels about his colleague's 'normalize Indian hate' statement.
Or Usha Vance.