OOWL Game 2, Wolf Victory

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:53 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:So do we continue flailing randomly tomorrow? How does this work?

Yes. How else would it work?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:03 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:So do we continue flailing randomly tomorrow? How does this work?

Either we vote against bb2112 or we vote against triggercut. Simple.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:04 pm

Yes, flawless leader!

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:05 pm

I have a hunch.

Grundbegriff

No one is innocent until proven so.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:08 am

I regret that I have but one life to lose for my Seer.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:04 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
pr0ner wrote:It is day. You hear Grieg playing in the background.
Just read this. Nice ambience.

Thanks!

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:41 am

1. RMC - theohall
2. Remus West - triggercut Isgrimnur Remus West Grundbegriff
3. Isgrimnur - bb2112 Grundbegriff
4. Grundbegriff
5. bb2112 - Isgrimnur theohall
6. scoop20906 - theohall
7. triggercut - Remus West Grundbegriff
8. theohall - scoop20906 bb2112 Grundbegriff
9. lassr - scoop20906

Grundbegriff (1) - theohall
scoop20906 (1) - lassr
theohall (3) - RMC, bb2112, scoop20906

Majority for lynch: 5
Deadline - Tuesday at 9 PM EDT.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:24 am

An excuse to vote either triggercut or bb2112 on the first day?! I think I just fell in love with grund.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:57 am

Grundbegriff

I know all about Grund's constantly change his style of play strategy, however, isn't he usually more reserved the first day? Besides,

Grundbegriff wrote:I regret that I have but one life to lose for my Seer.

For all that it is worth, this looks like an admission that Grund is not the Seer. Again, for what it is worth.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:18 pm

bb2112 wrote:For all that it is worth, this looks like an admission that Grund is not the Seer. Again, for what it is worth.

The only real task at hand is to choose between the two.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:21 pm

Not to be a Debbiedowner but isn't our deadline at 9 tonight?

I can go with just about anybody today. 25% chance is better than zero.

We have 5 votes currently posted.

Grundbegriff (1) - theohall, bb2112
scoop20906 (1) - lassr
theohall (2) - RMC, scoop20906

Grund, Trig, Isgrimnur and Remus all do not have a vote as of now.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:23 pm

bb2112 wrote:Not to be a Debbiedowner but isn't our deadline at 9 tonight?

I can go with just about anybody today. 25% chance is better than zero.

We have 5 votes currently posted.

Grundbegriff (2) - theohall, bb2112
scoop20906 (1) - lassr
theohall (2) - RMC, scoop20906

Grund, Trig, Isgrimnur and Remus all do not have a vote as of now.

Fixed to edit Grund from 1 vote to 2.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:24 pm

With only 5 hours until the deadline we had better make a move towards someone soon.
Since I managed to get him killed first last game
bb2112

it'll be funnier to do it again.

besides, his FF team has proven to be world's better than mine and I'm bitter. Well, bitterish. O.k., I'm not really bitter at all but I am looking for a good excuse to hang someone and this will work for me.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:25 pm

Let's put it in a three-way tie and see which way the others lean:

Scoop

Because I find that huge mouth on your Catherine avatar kinda creepy.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:25 pm

bb2112 wrote:Not to be a Debbiedowner but isn't our deadline at 9 tonight?

you are correct, I did not realize that.

Isgrimnur

for his use of random.org to place his vote. Just like a wolf; can't think for himself.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:27 pm

triggercut

because he's not being circumspect and probative

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:28 pm

Lassr wrote:
bb2112 wrote:Not to be a Debbiedowner but isn't our deadline at 9 tonight?

you are correct, I did not realize that.

Isgrimnur

for his use of random.org to place his vote. Just like a wolf; can't think for himself.

Way to be behind the times. I pulled that vote and have since cast another one.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:30 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
Lassr wrote:
bb2112 wrote:Not to be a Debbiedowner but isn't our deadline at 9 tonight?

you are correct, I did not realize that.

Isgrimnur

for his use of random.org to place his vote. Just like a wolf; can't think for himself.
Way to be behind the times. I pulled that vote and have since cast another one.

I know but at the time I was going to switch my vote just never got around to it. Now that I'm caught up maybe I'll switch again later.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:32 pm

Grundbegriff wrote: triggercut

because he's not being circumspect and probative

Best reason I've heard yet... I guess...

Triggercut

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:10 pm

9:00 pm tonight?

I'm sticking with theohall.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:14 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote: triggercut

because he's not being circumspect and probative
Best reason I've heard yet... I guess... Triggercut

Weren't you just voting against me? And now you're voting with me?

bb2112

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:16 pm

Yes, forgive me for not being circumspect and probative on day 1, when the village has an awful lot to lose by choosing poorly.

My first choice--grab a silent, because to me that silence implies a non-seer person. Hence, Grundbegriff makes a great choice.

Then he finally decides to speak up. Fair enough.

In fact, when he does speak up, he names myself and bb2112 as suspects.

Then votes on me.

Then bb2112 says "Uh, yeah, that sounds like a REALLY GOOD IDEA!"

C'mon.

The only thing staying me from a vote on bb2112 is that the guy seems to go out of his way to look guilty an inordinate number of times in these games.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:20 pm

BTW, the vote count posted by pr0ner at the top of the page is incorrect.

Interesting.

theohall--and correct my count if I'm mistaken--had 3 votes on him at the time pr0ner posted his update: bb2112, RMC, and Scoop.

bb2112 pulled his vote out of that.

Interesting.

None of the three said anything to correct pr0ner's count of the votes.

Interesting.

Scoop and bb2112 have both been posting and thus reading the game and this particular page today.

Interesting.

Maybe it means nothing at all, just a series of coincidental mistakes. Maybe at least one of our three wolves is in that group.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:21 pm

Should be noted--I think it was bb2112's vote on theohall that was not properly counted in pr0ner's vote count.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:39 pm

triggercut wrote:Should be noted--I think it was bb2112's vote on theohall that was not properly counted in pr0ner's vote count.

Fixed, thanks. I need to proofread more carefully next time.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:42 pm

triggercut wrote:Should be noted--I think it was bb2112's vote on theohall that was not properly counted in pr0ner's vote count.

It wasn't. My vote has been all over the place and so have a few others. Trig, the only reason why I voted for you is because you have been unnaturally silent. As far as wolves making mistakes, I haven't seen any slips yet. Your being silent is the closest thing I see as being possible, but I feel I kind of owe you a (limited) pass for harangueing you so badly in the last game.

If Grunge was just fishing and wasn't serious about voting for you, then I switch back to my original vote.

Isgrimnur

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:46 pm

Yep, I'm caught red handed not paying attention to the vote count.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:49 pm

bb2112 wrote:If Grunge was just fishing and wasn't serious about voting for you, then I switch back to my original vote.

Wow. triggercut is right about you. You do seem to go out of your way to look guilty. I was voting you because it'd be funny but you combine this statement with grund's observation that you were voting against him and then switched to voting with him and now seem to feel you were voting with him only because he you thought he was serious about voting triggercut? Why would you join a guy you voted against if you think he is serious. You're not funny to lynch any more. Jerk.
withdraw bb2112

I think theohall

is closest right now. Lets lynch somebody at least.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:03 pm

1. RMC - theohall
2. Remus West - triggercut Isgrimnur Remus West Grundbegriff bb2112 theohall
3. Isgrimnur - bb2112 Grundbegriff scoop20906
4. Grundbegriff - triggercut bb2112
5. bb2112 - Isgrimnur theohall Grundbegriff triggercut Isgrimnur
6. scoop20906 - theohall
7. triggercut - Remus West Grundbegriff
8. theohall - scoop20906 bb2112 Grundbegriff
9. lassr - scoop20906 Isgrimnur

Isgrimnur (2) - bb2112, lassr
Grundbegriff (1) - theohall
scoop20906 (1) - Isgrimnur
bb2112 (1) - Grundbegriff
theohall (3) - RMC, Remus West scoop20906

Majority for lynch: 5
Deadline - Tuesday at 9 PM EDT.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:05 pm

Thanks for the update, Pr0ner. Trying to follow all of that was making my head hurt.

But you're counting my vote against Scoop up top, but not in the totals, and counting lassr against me and scoop.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:09 pm

Remus West wrote:
bb2112 wrote:If Grunge was just fishing and wasn't serious about voting for you, then I switch back to my original vote.
Wow. triggercut is right about you. You do seem to go out of your way to look guilty.

Only when I'm innocent.

theohall

N-1

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:13 pm

pr0ner wrote:1. RMC - theohall
2. Remus West - triggercut Isgrimnur Remus West Grundbegriff bb2112 theohall
3. Isgrimnur - bb2112 Grundbegriff scoop20906
4. Grundbegriff - triggercut bb2112
5. bb2112 - Isgrimnur theohall Grundbegriff triggercut Isgrimnur
6. scoop20906 - theohall
7. triggercut - Remus West Grundbegriff
8. theohall - scoop20906 bb2112 Grundbegriff
9. lassr - scoop20906 Isgrimnur

Isgrimnur (2) - bb2112, lassr
Grundbegriff (1) - theohall
scoop20906 (1) - lassr
bb2112 (1) - Grundbegriff
theohall (3) - RMC, Remus West scoop20906

Majority for lynch: 5
Deadline - Tuesday at 9 PM EDT.

The one vote for scoop is by Isgrimnur, I think. Lassr's was double counted. His single current vote as of this update was on Isgrimnur.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:17 pm

I am only a villager and will be your first strike. But them is the breaks sometimes.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:44 pm

I suck at moderating.

I'll blame that difficulty on posting on my phone this time.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:15 pm

Friendly reminder: 1 hour and 45 minutes until the deadline.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:18 pm

triggercut wrote:Yes, forgive me for not being circumspect and probative on day 1, when the village has an awful lot to lose by choosing poorly.

Last game, you declined to apply the triggercut principle to someone who accused you; you took a wait-and-see approach.
This game, you immediately applied the triggercut principle to someone who accused you; you explained in detail how it works.

That's a noteworthy difference.

Last game, you poked around quite a bit to stir up evidence, and you stirred the waters. You were innocent.
This game, you've poked around hardly at all, and you've been still as ice.

Your rebuttal style differs, too.

I think you're a wolf. The fact that I moved my vote from you to bb2112 does not mean that I'm merely using you as a backboard. Let me be unambiguous: I'll be surprised if you're human, triggercut.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:21 pm

bb2112 to triggercut wrote:If Grunge was just fishing and wasn't serious about voting for you, then I switch back to my original vote.

Why would you change your vote to triggercut when I do, and then remove your vote from triggercut when I do?

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:26 pm

pr0ner wrote:I suck at moderating. I'll blame that difficulty on posting on my phone this time.

You're trying to mod by phone? You're braver than I thought.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:28 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
bb2112 to triggercut wrote:If Grunge was just fishing and wasn't serious about voting for you, then I switch back to my original vote.
Why would you change your vote to triggercut when I do, and then remove your vote from triggercut when I do?

Simple. Timing. We are up against the deadline and if you weren't serious about voting Trig, then there isn't enough time to get lynch going. That is the only reason.

I actually agree with your logic on Triggercut, but was reluctant to go after him hard because I did last game. And lest we forget, I was utterly, completely and hopelessly wrong.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:31 pm

We only need to get to 5 votes. This shouldn't be this hard.