Octopus Overlords

Society today seems to take great pleasure in assuming stuff is crap, will be crap, hope it's crap must be crap. It's all so pessimistic.

Reemul wrote:I don't understand the foreboding.

Reemul wrote:Why the hell worry about stuff that hasn't even happened yet, woe is us crap all of it. There is so much to do and be doing without worrying if something may not live up to the hype or be any good I feel it's all just angst that you would get as a teenager.

I’m a little sad that No Man’s Sky is being released.

This is surely not an uncommon feeling: sometimes the the long weeks of anticipation leading up to Christmas are more fun than the day itself, which has the weight of expectation placed upon it and is, in any case, quickly devoured. With enough experience, you learn to savour the anticipation for its own sake.

No Man’s Sky’s procedural universe will not be as easily chewed through as a Christmas turkey Quorn log, but its release still marks the end of No Man’s Sky as a horizon-dwelling object of pure imagination and the beginning of its life as something more real and undoubtedly more finite.

Reemul wrote:I don't understand the foreboding.

Why bother having a sense of failure or saying it can't do this or that.

Society today seems to take great pleasure in assuming stuff is crap, will be crap, hope it's crap must be crap. It's all so pessimistic.

The game will come out, it will be reviewed, if it's good people will say, if it's bad people will say. If you like it you can buy it if not you don't need to.

Why the hell worry about stuff that hasn't even happened yet, woe is us crap all of it. There is so much to do and be doing without worrying if something may not live up to the hype or be any good I feel it's all just angst that you would get as a teenager. Move on beyond that, hope it's good and if not move on to the next good thing.

Heck if I worried about stuff that might turn out crap I may as well give up the will to live, however maybe I will worry that won't work out well either....

As you can gather this teen ridden angst over a bloody game that is permeating most forums really is annoying as hell and if it is crap the verbal diarrhea over it on forums is going to be never ending with I told you so and woe is us...

baelthazar wrote:

Reemul wrote:I don't understand the foreboding.

Why bother having a sense of failure or saying it can't do this or that.

Society today seems to take great pleasure in assuming stuff is crap, will be crap, hope it's crap must be crap. It's all so pessimistic.

The game will come out, it will be reviewed, if it's good people will say, if it's bad people will say. If you like it you can buy it if not you don't need to.

Why the hell worry about stuff that hasn't even happened yet, woe is us crap all of it. There is so much to do and be doing without worrying if something may not live up to the hype or be any good I feel it's all just angst that you would get as a teenager. Move on beyond that, hope it's good and if not move on to the next good thing.

Heck if I worried about stuff that might turn out crap I may as well give up the will to live, however maybe I will worry that won't work out well either....

As you can gather this teen ridden angst over a bloody game that is permeating most forums really is annoying as hell and if it is crap the verbal diarrhea over it on forums is going to be never ending with I told you so and woe is us...

Reemul, did you just take a pessimistic dump over me taking a pessimistic dump? Think about it, you wrote an annoying and angsty rant about annoying angtsy rants...

But take it down a notch. I was just expressing balanced worry that a game I am looking forward to will not live up to the frankly ridiculous level of hype. I'm not pulling out my hair over it - mostly because I have hair like Patrick Stewart - but you can't read tone over the internet. I mean, if you can't have some good-natured moaning in a game forum, then what are they for!

ColdSteel wrote:From what I can tell, it looks like maybe they haven't been showing a lot of the game because they wanted to surprise people, not because there wasn't any gameplay.

ColdSteel wrote:Saw on Reddit that some guy apparently somehow got a copy of the PS4 version of the game early and posted some videos of gameplay on his first planet. I think they got taken down when Sean at Hello Games begged him not to spoil the game for people. I watched about half of one of them someone had copied over to youtube and it was enough for me to really want the game. From what I can tell, it looks like maybe they haven't been showing a lot of the game because they wanted to surprise people, not because there wasn't any gameplay. It sure looks fun to me.

Lee wrote:What struck me as cheesy was, as he was digging out a rock formation, there was no gravity acting on the upper rocks. They just stayed in the air like in Minecraft or Terraria. Not a big deal by any means, it just looked strange in a game with good graphics.

AjD wrote:

ColdSteel wrote:Saw on Reddit that some guy apparently somehow got a copy of the PS4 version of the game early and posted some videos of gameplay on his first planet. I think they got taken down when Sean at Hello Games begged him not to spoil the game for people. I watched about half of one of them someone had copied over to youtube and it was enough for me to really want the game. From what I can tell, it looks like maybe they haven't been showing a lot of the game because they wanted to surprise people, not because there wasn't any gameplay. It sure looks fun to me.

I just watched the first video.

It looks terrific, especially if you like to explore. It's amazing to watch the player run around on foot, exploring the planet and the world looks just huge. I keep wondering what's over the next hill (I'm that kind of player; it's like dopamine).

baelthazar wrote:Does anyone remember what he said about the scaling of planets? I know they are not realistic scale (because then you would never be able to leave even the first one you land on if you want to explore extensively), but I remember them being big nonetheless.

ColdSteel wrote:And now delayed until the 12th for the PC version.

Reemul wrote:

ColdSteel wrote:And now delayed until the 12th for the PC version.

Been that on steam for a few weeks but maybe that was just the UK date and the US was earlier, normally a tuesday

The Three Paths – there are now new, unique “paths” you can follow throughout the game. You must start the game on a fresh save, with the patch, as early choices have significant impact on what you see later in the game, and the overall experience.

The Universe – we changed the rules of the universe generation algorithm. Planets have moved. Environments have changed biomes. Galaxies have altered shape. All to create greater variety earlier. Galaxies are now up to 10x larger.

Diversity – Creatures are now more diverse in terms of ecology and densities on planets.

Planets – we’ve added dead moons, low atmosphere and extreme hazardous planets. Extreme hazards include blizzards and dust storms.

Atmosphere – space, night time and day skies are now 4x more varied due to new atmospheric system, which refracts light more accurately to allow for more intense sunsets.

Planet rotation – play testing has made it obvious people are struggling to adjust to this during play so it’s effects have been reduced further…

Terrain generation – caves up to 128m tall are now possible. Geometric anomalies have been added. Underwater erosion now leads to more interesting sea beds.

Ship diversity – a wider variety of ships appear per star system, and are available to purchase. Cargo and installed technology now vary more, and ships have more unique attributes.

Inventory – ship inventories now store 5 times more resources per slot. Suit inventories now store 2.5 times more per slot. This encourages exploration and gives freedom from the beginning. We’re probably going to increase this even further in the next update, for people in the latter game phases, and will allow greater trading potential.

Trading – trading is deeper. Star systems and planets each have their own wants and needs, based off a galactic economy. Observing these is the key to successful trading. We still working on adjusting this based on how everyone plays, but all trading values have been rebalanced across the galaxy, giving a greater depth. A bunch of trade exploits were uncovered and have been removed

Feeding – creatures now have their own diet, based on planet and climate. Feeding them correctly will yield different results per species, such as mining for you, protecting the player, becoming pets, alerting you to rare loot or pooping valuable resources.

Survival – recharging hazard protection requires rare resources, making shielding shards useful again. Storms can be deadly. Hazard protection and suit upgrades have been added. Liquids are often more dangerous

Graphical effects – Lighting and texture resolution have been improved. Shadow quality has doubled. Temporal AA didn’t make it in time, but it’s so close

Balancing – several hundred upgrades have had stat changes (mainly exo-suit and ship, but also weapon), new upgrades have been added.

Combat – Auto Aim and weapon aim has been completely rewritten to feel more gentle in general, but stickier when you need it. Sentinels now alert each other, if they haven’t been dealt with quickly. Quad and Walker AI is now much more challenging, even I struggle with them without a powered up weapon.

Space Combat – advanced techniques have been introduced, like brake drifting and critical hits. Bounty missions and larger battles now occur. Pirate frequency has been increased, as well as difficulty depending on your cargo.

Exploits – infinite warp cell exploit and rare goods trading exploit among other removed. People using these cheats were ruining the game for themselves, but people are weird and can’t stop themselves ¯_(シ)_/¯

Stability – foundations for buildings on super large planets. Resolved several low repro crashes, in particular when player warped further than 256 light years in one session (was only possible due to warp cell exploit above).

Space Stations – interiors are now more varied, bars, trade rooms and hydroponic labs have been added

Networking – Ability to scan star systems other players have discovered on the Galactic Map, increasing the chance of collision. Star systems discovered by other players appear during Galactic Map flight

Ship scanning – scanning for points of interest from your ship is now possible. Buildings generate earlier and show up in ship scans

Flying over terrain – pop-in and shadow artefacts have been reduced. Generation speed has been increased two fold (planets with large bodies of water will be targeted in next update)

Writing – The Atlas path has been rewritten by James Swallow (writer on Dues Ex) and me. I think it speaks to the over-arching theme of player freedom more clearly now. Early mission text has been rewritten to allow for multiple endings.