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gbasden wrote:

Smutly wrote: I don't support Trump. I just find him much less reprehensible than Hillary Clinton.

Oh, sure. Bragging about sexually assaulting women is way less reprehensible than made up issues about Benghazi! or some emails.

mori wrote:
I am not worried that Trump will win the election.

Smoove_B wrote:

Kraken wrote:That's a good point. It's still the only way I can imagine him pulling this out of the fire, though. It's not like he can urge discussion of "the issues" without getting creamed there, too (insofar as there are any issues beyond the candidates' characters).

But even if he's somehow able to argue that morally speaking, he and Hillary are equals or at least, he's no worse than she is....he still hasn't in any way addressed his complete lack of ability to govern. Or understand policy. Or international issues. Or how anything in the public sector works. No matter how many times I add it all up, I cannot figure out how anyone could possibly consider him viable in any capacity other than he has an (R) after his name.

Kraken wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:

Kraken wrote:That's a good point. It's still the only way I can imagine him pulling this out of the fire, though. It's not like he can urge discussion of "the issues" without getting creamed there, too (insofar as there are any issues beyond the candidates' characters).

But even if he's somehow able to argue that morally speaking, he and Hillary are equals or at least, he's no worse than she is....he still hasn't in any way addressed his complete lack of ability to govern. Or understand policy. Or international issues. Or how anything in the public sector works. No matter how many times I add it all up, I cannot figure out how anyone could possibly consider him viable in any capacity other than he has an (R) after his name.

All true, yet none of those things have noticeably hurt him so far. In fact, his outsider bomb-throwing not-a-politician bluster seems to be the main thing he has going for him (besides the (R), that is). He's ridden it this far so that sure ain't gonna change.

Rip wrote:

Kraken wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:

Kraken wrote:That's a good point. It's still the only way I can imagine him pulling this out of the fire, though. It's not like he can urge discussion of "the issues" without getting creamed there, too (insofar as there are any issues beyond the candidates' characters).

But even if he's somehow able to argue that morally speaking, he and Hillary are equals or at least, he's no worse than she is....he still hasn't in any way addressed his complete lack of ability to govern. Or understand policy. Or international issues. Or how anything in the public sector works. No matter how many times I add it all up, I cannot figure out how anyone could possibly consider him viable in any capacity other than he has an (R) after his name.

All true, yet none of those things have noticeably hurt him so far. In fact, his outsider bomb-throwing not-a-politician bluster seems to be the main thing he has going for him (besides the (R), that is). He's ridden it this far so that sure ain't gonna change.

Nor should it. His anti-establishment maverick shtick is all he has left at this point.

At this point I have more doubts than ever about his being able to pull it off, he really needed some of the fringe supporters. That said the outrage vote was always his core supporters and now that is all he has left. Best thing he can do is hoist that flag over his head and run for the finish line and hope Erra has his back.

hepcat wrote:

mori wrote:
I am not worried that Trump will win the election.

You should be.

Before the second presidential debate, Donald Trump has appeared at an event with women who accused former President Bill Clinton of rape and unwanted sexual advances.

The Republican nominee did not take questions as he appeared with Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey.

Jones is a former Arkansas state worker who filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Bill Clinton in 1994 for allegedly exposing himself to her in a Little Rock hotel room.

She says of Trump, "He's going to make America great again."

Also at the event was Kathy Shelton, who was a raped as a 12-year-old. Hillary Clinton represented the suspect as a public defender.

mori wrote:

hepcat wrote:

mori wrote:
I am not worried that Trump will win the election.

You should be.

The only scenario I could see Trump winning is if Hillary got indicted on federal charges before election day.

Unagi wrote:

mori wrote:

hepcat wrote:

mori wrote:
I am not worried that Trump will win the election.

You should be.

The only scenario I could see Trump winning is if Hillary got indicted on federal charges before election day.

What state are you voting in?

mori wrote:

Unagi wrote:

mori wrote:

hepcat wrote:

mori wrote:
I am not worried that Trump will win the election.

You should be.

The only scenario I could see Trump winning is if Hillary got indicted on federal charges before election day.

What state are you voting in?

MN

Also at the event was Kathy Shelton, who was a raped as a 12-year-old. Hillary Clinton represented the suspect as a public defender.

In her book Living History, Clinton recalls that Mahlon Gibson, a Washington County prosecutor, told her that the accused rapist “wanted a woman lawyer” to defend him, and that Gibson had recommended Clinton to Judge Maupin Cummings. “I told Mahlon I really didn’t feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn’t very well refuse the judge’s request.”

Gibson corroborated Clinton’s story in a 2014 interview with CNN.

Holman wrote:

Also at the event was Kathy Shelton, who was a raped as a 12-year-old. Hillary Clinton represented the suspect as a public defender.

Trump would be a moron to attack Clinton for this kind of public service. She was a lawyer and founder of the University of Arkansas law school's Legal Aid Clinic. A judge insisted that she take the case.

In her book Living History, Clinton recalls that Mahlon Gibson, a Washington County prosecutor, told her that the accused rapist “wanted a woman lawyer” to defend him, and that Gibson had recommended Clinton to Judge Maupin Cummings. “I told Mahlon I really didn’t feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn’t very well refuse the judge’s request.”

Gibson corroborated Clinton’s story in a 2014 interview with CNN.

Maybe in Trump's America icky accused defendants no longer have a right to legal representation?

8:52 PM
Trump is now clearly trying to tie Clinton to her husband’s past affairs and indiscretions with women in the past. Polling indicates that’s a big mistake. According to an early August YouGov survey, 62 percent of voters said it would be inappropriate to use Bill Clinton’s past actions to attack Clinton. Perhaps worst of all for Trump is that he is playing to one of his opponent’s strengths. If the topic of discussion becomes women’s equality and women’s rights, about 70 percent of voters trust Clinton more than Trump on these issues, according to a June 2016 CNN/ORC survey.

tgb wrote:There's still a month to go and his core is as loyal as ever. Anything can happen.

Kraken wrote:Columbia scenario

Carpet_pissr wrote:

Kraken wrote:Columbia scenario

Oh shit. What did we do now?! Please tell me you meant "Colombia".

John Oliver wrote:“I’ll put it this way: if American democracy is a computer game, and Hillary is completing women’s 100-year quest to get to the Oval Office, it kind of makes sense that this would be the final boss.”

If Mitnick had been hesitant with reporters at first, he quickly grew more forthcoming. He’d spent his career practicing at a Long Island accounting firm that specialized in helping the great New York real-estate families hold on to their wealth. He’d been Fred Trump’s accountant, and when Donald became an adult Mitnick did his taxes, too, for more than thirty years, until 1996. On one of the documents that the Times received (the paper was sent only the first pages of Trump’s 1995 New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut returns), the nine-figure amount entered under losses had looked unusual: the first two characters had been entered in a different font. Mitnick solved that mystery. The tax software he’d used at the time only allowed him to enter seven figures in the loss column (not unreasonably, it had probably not anticipated anyone claiming nine-figure losses), so he had added the first two digits with an I.B.M. Selectric typewriter.

Perhaps Mitnick sensed that there was a grander role for himself in this story: not just the clerk who verifies the papers but the counsellor as character witness. He told the Times that Donald Trump was brash and undisciplined, so unlike his scrupulous father, Fred. When Trump and his wife Ivana would come into his office to go over the returns, Mitnick said, it was almost always Ivana who asked more questions. On Wednesday, CNN interviewed Mitnick on air via satellite and asked him about the Trump campaign’s argument that avoiding taxes meant Trump had dealt with the tax code “brilliantly.” Mitnick said that Trump had “virtually zero” role in preparing his own taxes. His only contribution was to hire Mitnick. Here, Mitnick gave a grin. He was enjoying himself. “Those returns were entirely created by us,” Mitnick said.

Alefroth wrote:

Carpet_pissr wrote:

Kraken wrote:Columbia scenario

Oh shit. What did we do now?! Please tell me you meant "Colombia".

Kraken has no authorization to be speak of it. It's very deep cover.

hentzau wrote:

John Oliver wrote:“I’ll put it this way: if American democracy is a computer game, and Hillary is completing women’s 100-year quest to get to the Oval Office, it kind of makes sense that this would be the final boss.”

RunningMn9 wrote:I will say this, I really appreciate the neighbors that I have that are still willing to keep their Trump signs out. It makes it so much easier to identify those that I need not ever have contact with again.

hepcat wrote:I will now simultaneously both obey and defy the laws of gravity.

Smutly wrote:

RunningMn9 wrote:I will say this, I really appreciate the neighbors that I have that are still willing to keep their Trump signs out. It makes it so much easier to identify those that I need not ever have contact with again.

Does this mean you support secession from the Union for those red states who don't want to belong to Hillary's United States? If Trump supporters are truly deplorable and beyond redemption and you're never going to ever have contact them again, then let's just rip the Union apart. Is that what you are saying?

Smutly wrote:

RunningMn9 wrote:I will say this, I really appreciate the neighbors that I have that are still willing to keep their Trump signs out. It makes it so much easier to identify those that I need not ever have contact with again.

Does this mean you support secession from the Union for those red states who don't want to belong to Hillary's United States? If Trump supporters are truly deplorable and beyond redemption and you're never going to ever have contact them again, then let's just rip the Union apart. Is that what you are saying?

hepcat wrote:I love extremist analogies.

"I don't like cheese."

"SO YOU WANT THE DAIRY INDUSTRY TO FAIL IN THIS COUNTRY!?"