The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:22 am

Wait...are we talking about Philadelphia or Jersey?

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:24 am

AWS260 wrote:Trump's strategy for victory in Pennsylvania is apparently to start a race war.

So here's the question:

When he sends his women (probably Conway and Pierson) out under the supervision of his right hand man Rudy to find, and kill, some wealthy White people and write Helter Skelter on the walls in their blood, will it help or hurt him with women and undecideds?

His base, I assume, will just become more loyal.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:27 am

tlr is from Philly and I've been there many times visiting her family.

They put Cheese-Whiz on their steak sandwiches in Philly.

Cheese-Whiz.

Anyone who is capable of that is capable of anything.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:27 am

Holman wrote:
tgb wrote: Trump hasn't even claimed to have had a religious epiphany, has he?
June 2016: A Born-Again Donald Trump? Believe It, Evangelical Leader Says.

Has Donald J. Trump become a born-again Christian?

That is the suggestion of James C. Dobson, one of America’s leading evangelicals, who said Mr. Trump had recently come “to accept a relationship with Christ” and was now “a baby Christian.”

Dr. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family and one of the country’s most prominent social conservatives, gave his account at a meeting Mr. Trump had in New York on Tuesday with hundreds of Christian conservatives.

In an interview recorded at the event by a Pennsylvania pastor, the Rev. Michael Anthony, Dr. Dobson said he knew the person who had led Mr. Trump to Christ, though he did not name him.

“I don’t know when it was, but it has not been long,” Dr. Dobson said. “I believe he really made a commitment, but he’s a baby Christian.”

A "baby Christian". I guess that's one explanation for his breast grabby behavior...

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:31 am

FALWELL, JR.: And Jesus said he's - he who is without sin cast the first stone. I just see how Donald Trump treats other people, and I'm impressed by that.

You don't stone the harlot, you grab her by the pussy?

Or do you stone your political rival's husband, then threaten to jail her?

FALWELL, JR.: He just expresses his faith in a different way than many evangelical Christians do.

I have no more words.

:facepalm:

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:34 am

hepcat wrote:Wait...are we talking about Philadelphia or Jersey?

There's a large NJ expat group in Pennsylvania. Documented in the PolRand thread. It would only make sense for them to cleave together.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:37 am

Ah, that would also explain the scarcity of gold chains in those regions.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:39 am

tgb wrote:tlr is from Philly and I've been there many times visiting her family.

They put Cheese-Whiz on their steak sandwiches in Philly.

Cheese-Whiz.

Anyone who is capable of that is capable of anything.

While it isn't my favorite thing - it is pretty good drunk food. Don't knock it until you're stumbling around South Street at 2 AM ravenously hungry.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:46 am

tgb wrote:tlr is from Philly and I've been there many times visiting her family.

They put Cheese-Whiz on their steak sandwiches in Philly.

Cheese-Whiz.

Anyone who is capable of that is capable of anything.

Cheese-Whiz was the original way to go I believe and don't knock it till you try it. One of the best drunk food ever

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:47 am

I've heard that if you are drunk, Cheeze-Whiz on Steak is one of the best foods.

Default · Post by **Default** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:47 am

Isgrimnur wrote:I would figure that he would embrace the spray tan communities.

Some aren't the right shade of orange, if you know what I mean...

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:53 am

A Complete and Updated List of All the Sexual Assault Allegations Against Donald Trump

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:59 am

Enough wrote:

This isn't a fair comparison - the Donald's MO is completely drug-free. That has to count for something, right?

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:03 am

Defiant wrote:A Complete and Updated List of All the Sexual Assault Allegations Against Donald Trump

With any luck, for the next debate, the entire audience will consist of women that this piece of shit has groped.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:38 am

malchior wrote:
Enough wrote:
This isn't a fair comparison - the Donald's MO is completely drug-free. That has to count for something, right?

Do we know with any certainty that Sniffy McCokerson himself was drug-free?

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:58 am

RunningMn9 wrote:
Defiant wrote:A Complete and Updated List of All the Sexual Assault Allegations Against Donald Trump
With any luck, for the next debate, the entire audience will consist of women that this piece of shit has groped.

Well, at the end of that article he's threatening to drag out a bunch of women that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted in one way or another, but I'd be more interested in how many Hillary has. That's more of an apples to apples comparison.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:11 pm

Yeah, I'm getting a little bored with Trump's strategy being to campaign against a variety of people who aren't actually, you know, running for President.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:25 pm

Trump's missing donors: the people who work for him

Kerry Woolard, the 37-year-old manager of Trump Winery in Charlottesville, Virginia, went online in June and made her first political contribution: A $250 donation to the campaign of her boss, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Woolard's donation was unusual.

Only a dozen of an estimated 22,450 people employed at Trump's companies have donated more than $200 to the celebrity businessman's bid for the U.S. presidency, a Reuters review of federal campaign finance records through August shows. Those who gave less to either Trump's campaign or his joint fundraising committees would not have shown up in the review.

The contributors, including an office cleaner, a golf course groundskeeper, a bartender and an attorney, have given $5,298 to Trump's campaign, a fraction of the $112 million Trump's political operation has received from donors and joint fundraisers.

[...]

That stands in stark contrast to the 2012 election, when Mitt Romney, also an affluent businessman, was the Republican nominee.

Employees at the private equity firm Romney led and then retired from in 1999, Bain Capital, and a separate company for which he worked, Bain & Company, donated nearly $375,000 directly to his campaign and through joint fundraising committees during a comparable period in the election cycle, FEC records show. Bain Capital employees gave an additional $1.125 million to Romney's Super PAC.

Clinton received $324,000 directly to her campaign and through her joint fundraising committee from employees at the State Department, where she served as secretary of state from 2009 until 2013, according to FEC filings through August. No State Department employee has given so far to Clinton's Super PAC.

I'm surprised that more of Trump's sycophants employees haven't ponied up.

Dogstar · Post by **Dogstar** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:45 pm

Paingod wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:
Defiant wrote:A Complete and Updated List of All the Sexual Assault Allegations Against Donald Trump
With any luck, for the next debate, the entire audience will consist of women that this piece of shit has groped.
Well, at the end of that article he's threatening to drag out a bunch of women that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted in one way or another, but I'd be more interested in how many Hillary has. That's more of an apples to apples comparison.

Can we just stop for a sec and be horrified that we're at the point in any political campaign, let alone one for President, where we're counting the number of potential sexual assault victims on either side?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:49 pm

Max Peck wrote:Trump's missing donors: the people who work for him
Kerry Woolard, the 37-year-old manager of Trump Winery in Charlottesville, Virginia, went online in June and made her first political contribution: A $250 donation to the campaign of her boss, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Woolard's donation was unusual.

Only a dozen of an estimated 22,450 people employed at Trump's companies have donated more than $200 to the celebrity businessman's bid for the U.S. presidency, a Reuters review of federal campaign finance records through August shows. Those who gave less to either Trump's campaign or his joint fundraising committees would not have shown up in the review.

The contributors, including an office cleaner, a golf course groundskeeper, a bartender and an attorney, have given $5,298 to Trump's campaign, a fraction of the $112 million Trump's political operation has received from donors and joint fundraisers.

[...]

That stands in stark contrast to the 2012 election, when Mitt Romney, also an affluent businessman, was the Republican nominee.

Employees at the private equity firm Romney led and then retired from in 1999, Bain Capital, and a separate company for which he worked, Bain & Company, donated nearly $375,000 directly to his campaign and through joint fundraising committees during a comparable period in the election cycle, FEC records show. Bain Capital employees gave an additional $1.125 million to Romney's Super PAC.

Clinton received $324,000 directly to her campaign and through her joint fundraising committee from employees at the State Department, where she served as secretary of state from 2009 until 2013, according to FEC filings through August. No State Department employee has given so far to Clinton's Super PAC.
I'm surprised that more of Trump's sycophants employees haven't ponied up.

That makes them SMART!

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:06 pm

French PM says France supports Clinton over Trump

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said Thursday that his country supports the election of Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump in the upcoming U.S. presidential election.

Valls said during a visit to Ottawa that he and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have discussed the U.S. election. Valls didn't share Trudeau's thoughts, but he was categorical about his pick in the Nov. 8 election: Clinton.

Valls, speaking in French, said U.S. President Barack Obama was "elected by the world" and "Trump is rejected by the world."

The surprising statement by the French leader ahead of the U.S. election is against standard international diplomatic practice.

Trudeau has long said he would work with the next American president whoever it is and he repeated that Thursday.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:10 pm

Trump now speaking at rally. Will try not to throw up and watch him.

It's sadly hilarious to hear him attack the "establishment" that puts money into a wealthy few.

Oh here comes the lock her up chants. Sieg...

Oh my, "The Clintons are criminals. Remember that, the Clintons are criminals."

Ooooh, like his tax returns he will reveal evidence refuting all those false claims against him at a future appropriate time.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:11 pm

Paingod wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:
Defiant wrote:A Complete and Updated List of All the Sexual Assault Allegations Against Donald Trump
With any luck, for the next debate, the entire audience will consist of women that this piece of shit has groped.
Well, at the end of that article he's threatening to drag out a bunch of women that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted in one way or another, but I'd be more interested in how many Hillary has. That's more of an apples to apples comparison.

So, Trump's strategy is to attack his opponent's husband for possibly being sleazier than he ADMITTEDLY is.

Enough · Post by **Enough** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:13 pm

I had totally forgotten about this bit of sordid history when Trump tried to keep Tyson out of prison to make a buck,

Years before the Simpson verdict came down, Trump defended another sports hero accused of a heinous crime. When Mike Tyson faced a rape charge, Trump was in his corner. When the boxer was convicted and sentenced to prison, Trump concocted a scheme to keep him out. Instead of putting Tyson behind bars, he wanted him to fight Evander Holyfield ― with the proceeds going to a trust to benefit rape victims in Indiana, where Tyson had been convicted.

It wasn’t just a showman’s gambit. Trump put pressure on Desiree Washington, the rape victim in the case, to support his stunt. He went so far as to hold a press conference where he argued that Washington would be letting down other rape victims if she said no.

“A tremendous amount of money can be given to victims of rape and victims of abuse, and I think it can be much stronger than throwing people in jail for a long time,” Trump said. “Much more can be done by this rather than incarcerating someone.”

Prosecutors rejected the idea. Tyson went to prison. And Trump kept on defending Tyson

Default · Post by **Default** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:18 pm

And, Trump concedes Virginia to Clinton.
[https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.c ... id-verizon

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:19 pm

Max Peck wrote:Trump's missing donors: the people who work for him
Kerry Woolard, the 37-year-old manager of Trump Winery in Charlottesville, Virginia, went online in June and made her first political contribution: A $250 donation to the campaign of her boss, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Woolard's donation was unusual.

Only a dozen of an estimated 22,450 people employed at Trump's companies have donated more than $200 to the celebrity businessman's bid for the U.S. presidency, a Reuters review of federal campaign finance records through August shows. Those who gave less to either Trump's campaign or his joint fundraising committees would not have shown up in the review.

The contributors, including an office cleaner, a golf course groundskeeper, a bartender and an attorney, have given $5,298 to Trump's campaign, a fraction of the $112 million Trump's political operation has received from donors and joint fundraisers.

[...]

That stands in stark contrast to the 2012 election, when Mitt Romney, also an affluent businessman, was the Republican nominee.

Employees at the private equity firm Romney led and then retired from in 1999, Bain Capital, and a separate company for which he worked, Bain & Company, donated nearly $375,000 directly to his campaign and through joint fundraising committees during a comparable period in the election cycle, FEC records show. Bain Capital employees gave an additional $1.125 million to Romney's Super PAC.

Clinton received $324,000 directly to her campaign and through her joint fundraising committee from employees at the State Department, where she served as secretary of state from 2009 until 2013, according to FEC filings through August. No State Department employee has given so far to Clinton's Super PAC.
I'm surprised that more of Trump's sycophants employees haven't ponied up.

Really??? What do you think the bulk of the 22,450 people working for Trump take home in a weekly paycheck? Should we be surprised that not more than a fraction of them have ponied up more than a $200 contribution to Trump's campaign? The comparison to contributions made to Romney by his Bain Capital and Bain & Company private equity colleagues is laughable.

Another thing that's laughable (or maybe cringe-worthy is more accurate) is the widespread reporting of anonymous claims of sexual assault being leveled against Trump:

Also in the wake of Friday's leak, one woman who CNN anchor Erin Burnett has known for years told her she had a similar experience with Trump.

The woman -- who asked not to be identified -- met Trump in a boardroom in Trump Tower and another man -- a colleague of Burnett's friend -- was in the boardroom at the time of the incident. The woman told Burnett: "Trump took Tic Tacs, suggested I take them also. He then leaned in, catching me off guard, and kissed me almost on the lips. I was really freaked out. ... After (the meeting), Trump asked me to come into his office alone. Was really unsure what to do. ... Figured I could handle myself. Anyway, once in his office he kept telling me how special I am and gave me his cell, asked me to call him. I ran the hell out of there."

Again, really??? This is wrong. If an accuser is willing to go on the record, report away. But reporting anonymous stories from the friends of CNN anchors? WTF

I guess that whole, "when they go low, we go high" thing isn't really taking hold.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:27 pm

Kurth wrote:I guess that whole, "when they go low, we go high" thing isn't really taking hold.

I'm curious how much of this is actually being orchestrated by the Clinton camp, and how much is just the media just looking for eyeballs and/or being sick of Drumpf's shit. Not that we'll ever actually know...

Fitzy · Post by **Fitzy** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:30 pm

Kurth wrote: I guess that whole, "when they go low, we go high" thing isn't really taking hold.

So you're saying CNN is part of the Clinton campaign?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:31 pm

Little column A and Little Column B. Plus covering this is likely ratings gold.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:35 pm

Kurth wrote:Again, really??? This is wrong. If an accuser is willing to go on the record, report away. But reporting anonymous stories from the friends of CNN anchors? WTF

I guess that whole, "when they go low, we go high" thing isn't really taking hold.

I have mixed feeling about this. Maybe I've watched too many SVU reruns on USA. The media's job is to report and I think it sends a bad message to doubt those who claim abuse even if you don't presume the guilt of the alleged abuser. Coming in to this, this was the whole argument against Clinton circling the wagon to protect her husband. It's no different here, when anonymity is requested.

I do have a problem with politicizing abuse for political or news or social media gain, though.

Skinypupy wrote:I'm curious how much of this is actually being orchestrated by the Clinton camp, and how much is just the media just looking for eyeballs and/or being sick of Drumpf's shit. Not that we'll ever actually know...

Radio's conspiracy theory this morning was that it's Trump working behind the scenes to reinforce that he won't become president. That he can't bow out but he sure as hell doesn't want to actuallybe president.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:42 pm

Kurth wrote:If an accuser is willing to go on the record, report away. But reporting anonymous stories from the friends of CNN anchors? WTF

Names are left out of news stories all the time for various reasons.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:53 pm

LordMortis wrote: Radio's conspiracy theory this morning was that it's Trump working behind the scenes to reinforce that he won't become president. That he can't bow out but he sure as hell doesn't want to actuallybe president.

This has been my sneaking suspicion for a while now.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:56 pm

Trump sure knows how to have a good temper tantrum, doesn't he?
He's so hopped up on Conspiracy Theories and Coke we're never going to get him to stay off Twitter tonight.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:59 pm

LordMortis wrote:Radio's conspiracy theory this morning was that it's Trump working behind the scenes to reinforce that he won't become president. That he can't bow out but he sure as hell doesn't want to actuallybe president.

Maybe, but I can't see him being willing to entirely burn down his personal brand in order to get out of it. Which it seems like is what's happening now.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:16 pm

hepcat wrote:I always thought you were a libertarian?

Being a small l libertarian doesn't make me a big L Libertarian.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:17 pm

This really doesn't seem like the best defense for Trump to choose.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:18 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
LordMortis wrote:Radio's conspiracy theory this morning was that it's Trump working behind the scenes to reinforce that he won't become president. That he can't bow out but he sure as hell doesn't want to actuallybe president.
Maybe, but I can't see him being willing to entirely burn down his personal brand in order to get out of it. Which it seems like is what's happening now.

Yeah, I've been thinking some about this after the revelations of the past week. Trump really doesn't build stuff any more, he's a licensing machine. He gets his name put on real estate projects and either gets an annual fee or a percentage of the deal. Then there are the Trump steaks, wine, etc.

So is anyone going to be interested in these deals after this? "Trump wine, so you can get her so drunk you can grab her ***** ", isn't really all that of a tag line after all.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:21 pm

msteelers wrote:
Kurth wrote:If an accuser is willing to go on the record, report away. But reporting anonymous stories from the friends of CNN anchors? WTF
Names are left out of news stories all the time for various reasons.

True, but that in no way makes this instance right. Juveniles, whistleblowers, undercover assets, etc. Sure, report without naming the source.

But that's not what's going on here, and we all know it.

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:24 pm

Fitzy wrote:
Kurth wrote: I guess that whole, "when they go low, we go high" thing isn't really taking hold.
So you're saying CNN is part of the Clinton campaign?

Not at all. I'm saying I thought Michelle Obama's call to seek the high road was great, but it clearly hasn't taken hold with the media or certain factions of the voting public that seem to be eating this stuff up.

Fitzy · Post by **Fitzy** » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:25 pm

Grifman wrote:
Skinypupy wrote:
LordMortis wrote:Radio's conspiracy theory this morning was that it's Trump working behind the scenes to reinforce that he won't become president. That he can't bow out but he sure as hell doesn't want to actuallybe president.
Maybe, but I can't see him being willing to entirely burn down his personal brand in order to get out of it. Which it seems like is what's happening now.
Yeah, I've been thinking some about this after the revelations of the past week. Trump really doesn't build stuff any more, he's a licensing machine. He gets his name put on real estate projects and either gets an annual fee or a percentage of the deal. Then there are the Trump steaks, wine, etc.

So is anyone going to be interested in these deals after this? "Trump wine, so you can get her so drunk you can grab her ***** ", isn't really all that of a tag line after all.

Maybe in Russia