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Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:08 pm
by hitbyambulance
in Seattle, so many Sanders stickers and signs that you'd think he'd won the nomination. some Clinton, but only a handful as of the last few weeks.

i did see a Johnsonweld sign in the eastside suburbs, once.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:10 pm
by Isgrimnur
hitbyambulance wrote:i did see a Johnsonweld sign in the eastside suburbs, once.
Sounds like an automotive repair product.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:41 pm
by NickAragua
Back near my old place, there was a Ben Carson 2016 sign that went up about two years ago, nailed to a tree. For all I know, it's still there, although the last time I saw it, the "Carson" part had worn out. So now it just says Ben 2016, in fading gray instead of bright white. Kind of melancholy if you ask me.

As for drug tests, well, Trump just wants to prove that he has the biggest, best drugs. They'll really grab you by the pussy, those drugs, I tell you. And the Mexicans will pay for them. What the hell am I talking about again?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:12 pm
by Exodor
Oregon's got a very stark urban/ rural divide - typically I see tons of -D signs in the city which switch to -R signs as soon as you get outside the suburbs.

I drove from Portland to Salem last week and saw a few clusters of -R signs for governor and a few other races - but not a single Trump sign.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:19 pm
by em2nought
Exodor wrote:Oregon's got a very start urban/ rural divide - typically I see tons of -D signs in the city which switch to -R signs as soon as you get outside the suburbs.

I drove from Portland to Salem last week and saw a few clusters of -R signs for governor and a few other races - but not a single Trump sign.
Y'all are efficient at stealin' http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/trum ... alled-lake :wink:

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:39 pm
by dbt1949
Arkansas is a Republican state and has been for decades. And the northwest corner is the heart of that. It just blows me away at the support he has here. Lots of rednecks and retired people I recon.
Plus Hillary the carpet bagger did herself no favors by moving to New York.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:44 pm
by Kraken
noxiousdog wrote:
I can't tell if Smutly is actually voting for Trump or just anti-Hillary.
I think he's been clear about supporting Johnson.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:36 pm
by tgb
Kraken wrote:
I think he's been clear about supporting Johnson.
Like a jock strap?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:38 pm
by Default
When is the debate, so I can plan my hangover? <wince>

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:37 pm
by Isgrimnur
HR
Billy Bush is out at Today after reaching a settlement with NBC.

"Billy Bush will be leaving the Today show's 9 a.m. hour, effective today," reads a memo from Today senior vp Noah Oppenheim sent out to staff on Monday. "While he was a new member of the Today team, he was a valued colleague and longtime member of the broader NBC family. We wish him success as he goes forward."

In a statement, Bush says: "I am deeply grateful for the conversations I've had with my daughters, and for all of the support from family, friends and colleagues. I look forward to what lies ahead."

A source close to the negotiations says NBC did not require a non-compete agreement in Bush's settlement. He is free to take another job immediately.

The Today show host was suspended, pending further review, last Sunday, two days after hot-mic audio emerged from a 2005 Access Hollywood taping
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Bush, 45, and NBC were negotiating the terms of his exit last week, with Bush hiring prominent L.A. litigator Marshall Grossman to work out his separation from the network.

Grossman, who represented Erin Andrews in her peephole case and Steven Spielberg and Clint Eastwood in other matters, defended his client's role in the Trump tape, arguing that the then-Access Hollywood anchor was interviewing a fellow NBCUniversal star in The Apprentice's Trump, so he wasn't exactly in a position to challenge his interview subject.
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Sources at NBC confirmed to THR that Bush was heard bragging about the tape last summer, right around the time of the Rio Summer Olympics. Page Six first reported that Bush boasted about the tape during a party in Rio, when the former Access Hollywood host was making his debut as the newest member of the Today show team.
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Management knew the tape would have consequences for Bush and began immediately discussing how to handle the situation. On Oct. 7, the day the tape become public, Bush issued an apology: "Obviously I'm embarrassed and ashamed. It's no excuse, but this happened 11 years ago — I was younger, less mature and acted foolishly in playing along. I'm very sorry."

But an initial plan to let him apologize again on the Today show was nixed after the show's staff, which is heavily female, protested to Oppenheim, say sources. And by the evening of Oct. 9, less than two hours before the second presidential debate, Oppenheim sent an email to Today staffers informing them that Bush was suspended indefinitely.
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But in the end, the damage was deemed irrevocable for an anchor on a program with a majority female audience. There was also the very real concern that Bush would become a liability for the Today bookers if celebrities, particularly women, balked at being interviewed by him.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:15 pm
by Unagi
Yeah, you talk to those daughers, Billy.
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I hope the media world pays a little bit for being a part of this misogynistic bullshit.

i.e. I hope his daughters gave/give him hell.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:41 pm
by hepcat
em2nought wrote:
Exodor wrote:Oregon's got a very start urban/ rural divide - typically I see tons of -D signs in the city which switch to -R signs as soon as you get outside the suburbs.

I drove from Portland to Salem last week and saw a few clusters of -R signs for governor and a few other races - but not a single Trump sign.
Y'all are efficient at stealin' http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/trum ... alled-lake :wink:
It's you against the world, L'il Rip. :cry:

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:43 pm
by Zarathud
Melania is crying under all that makeup.
Melania wrote:Sometimes I said, I have two boys at home. I have my young son, and I have my husband. So...but I know how some men talk. And that's how I saw it, yes.
Melania wrote:No, that's not sexual assault. He didn't say that he did it.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:49 pm
by hepcat
Donald is one of her kids? Well, she does have to change both their diapers, I suppose.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:04 pm
by Max Peck
After his inevitable victory, Trump is willing to pay obeisance to Putin prior to inauguration day.
Donald Trump said he would be willing to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin before Inauguration Day if he is elected president, breaking sharply with precedent and showing little compunction over stepping on the heels of President Obama’s final months in office.

“Putin has no respect at all for Obama. And I think that you have potentially a really catastrophic situation here, I'll be honest with you,” Trump told conservative radio host Michael Savage during an interview. “I will say this, if I win on November 8th ... I think I could see myself meeting with Putin and meeting with Russia prior to the start of the administration. I think it would be wonderful.”

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:21 pm
by Smutly
Kraken wrote:
noxiousdog wrote:
I can't tell if Smutly is actually voting for Trump or just anti-Hillary.
I think he's been clear about supporting Johnson.
Yeah, but am now just depressed given his double-Aleppo moments. Too much weed, Gary. Too much weed.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:11 pm
by Kraken
Smutly wrote:
Kraken wrote:
noxiousdog wrote:
I can't tell if Smutly is actually voting for Trump or just anti-Hillary.
I think he's been clear about supporting Johnson.
Yeah, but am now just depressed given his double-Aleppo moments. Too much weed, Gary. Too much weed.
Neither of the third party candidates are really superior to the headliners. Those of us who vote our conscience have nowhere to go. I'm most likely going to land on Clinton by default, and I resent that.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:03 am
by Grifman
Zarathud wrote:Melania is crying under all that makeup.
Melania wrote:Sometimes I said, I have two boys at home. I have my young son, and I have my husband. So...but I know how some men talk. And that's how I saw it, yes.
Melania wrote:No, that's not sexual assault. He didn't say that he did it.
She's an enabler :)

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:10 am
by GreenGoo
I'll be honest with you,” Trump told conservative radio host Michael Savage during an interview.
Oh thank god, finally.
I will say this, if I win on November 8th ... I think I could see myself meeting with Putin and meeting with Russia prior to the start of the administration. I think it would be wonderful.
Ah. Honest about your crazy, bullshit, offensive ways.

No need Drumpf. We already know you're a wild animal willing to say and do anything if you think it will get you what you want.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:11 am
by GreenGoo
Kraken wrote:Those of us who vote our conscience have nowhere to go. I'm most likely going to land on Clinton by default, and I resent that.
Oh the plus side, you could take solace in the fact that she is not nearly as awful as you think she is.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:15 am
by gilraen
It's getting pretty ridiculous how any of Trump inner circle - from his campaign staff to his running mate - mostly start sentences these days with "What Donald Trump meant was..." Now Melania is basically saying the same thing, just differently worded. How surprising (not).

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:16 am
by gbasden
noxiousdog wrote:
I'm not sure anyone is. There's only four possibilities among semi-active posters and I'm pretty sure Rip has said he's voting independent. I think em2nought is a fake account, and who knows about msd but I think he also said independent since Alabama is in the bag anyway.

I can't tell if Smutly is actually voting for Trump or just anti-Hillary.

Regardless, it's way more skewed than previous elections.
MSD certainly seemed to announce in the Electoral Vote thread that he was voting for Trump because Hillary was coming for his guns. I haven't heard Rip denounce his Trump love, but maybe I missed it. You're totally right, though - I automatically discount anything em2nought says as maximally tuned trolling. It's MSD and Rip, though, that I can't understand. As foreign policy hawks, Trump's incoherent positions and obvious affinity for giving Putin what he wants should make them livid.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:47 am
by Kraken
GreenGoo wrote:
Kraken wrote:Those of us who vote our conscience have nowhere to go. I'm most likely going to land on Clinton by default, and I resent that.
Oh the plus side, you could take solace in the fact that she is not nearly as awful as you think she is.
We'll have four years to see if you're right. Since this isn't the Hillary thread I'll stop there.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:28 am
by El Guapo
gbasden wrote:
noxiousdog wrote:
I'm not sure anyone is. There's only four possibilities among semi-active posters and I'm pretty sure Rip has said he's voting independent. I think em2nought is a fake account, and who knows about msd but I think he also said independent since Alabama is in the bag anyway.

I can't tell if Smutly is actually voting for Trump or just anti-Hillary.

Regardless, it's way more skewed than previous elections.
MSD certainly seemed to announce in the Electoral Vote thread that he was voting for Trump because Hillary was coming for his guns. I haven't heard Rip denounce his Trump love, but maybe I missed it. You're totally right, though - I automatically discount anything em2nought says as maximally tuned trolling. It's MSD and Rip, though, that I can't understand. As foreign policy hawks, Trump's incoherent positions and obvious affinity for giving Putin what he wants should make them livid.

Rip is also trolling. It's unclear whether he has actual positions beyond tweaking R&P.

Kinda surprised that MSD seems to be favoring Trump over Johnson, but what are you gonna do.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:43 am
by Chaz
Complain on the internet?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:44 am
by Rip
I've got positions. The best positions.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:08 am
by Carpet_pissr
Many people seem to believe the 2nd Amendment is one of the main things that "makes America Great(R)" and separates us from all the loser countries out there, and they vote that belief no matter what. We are great because GUNS. Just think about where we would be TODAY without the 2nd Amendment! :think:

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:38 am
by tgb

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:43 am
by GreenGoo
Kraken wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Kraken wrote:Those of us who vote our conscience have nowhere to go. I'm most likely going to land on Clinton by default, and I resent that.
Oh the plus side, you could take solace in the fact that she is not nearly as awful as you think she is.
We'll have four years to see if you're right. Since this isn't the Hillary thread I'll stop there.
You've had decades.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:56 am
by YellowKing
The gun thing drives me nuts, because I have zero interest in guns, and the "they're coming for your guns" lie perpetuated by the NRA is just so patently false that I can't believe anyone actually believes it. They're running ads over and over here in NC saying that Hillary is going to take guns and leave women completely unprotected in their own homes, which is bullshit.

If the Democrats were truly going to take your guns, then Obama had ample opportunity to do so during his eight years in office.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:20 am
by wonderpug
Ironically, the gun nuts have taken away our guns more than Obama has (sorta). I don't go to the shooting range as much as I'd like to because the cheap ammo has been so hard to find, and the cheap ammo is only hard to find because gun people are hoarding it out of fear of Obama's impending takeover of our country.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:55 am
by hepcat
El Guapo wrote:
Rip is also trolling. It's unclear whether he has actual positions beyond tweaking R&P.
I'm fairly positive he admitted that was 99.9 percent of his reasons for even posting in R&P. Before I lash out at him for something I feel is outrageous, I try to remember that.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:09 am
by Carpet_pissr
wonderpug wrote:Ironically, the gun nuts have taken away our guns more than Obama has (sorta). I don't go to the shooting range as much as I'd like to because the cheap ammo has been so hard to find, and the cheap ammo is only hard to find because gun people are hoarding it out of fear of Obama's impending takeover of our country.
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Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:02 pm
by Defiant

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:16 pm
by Kraken
GreenGoo wrote:
Kraken wrote:
GreenGoo wrote:
Kraken wrote:Those of us who vote our conscience have nowhere to go. I'm most likely going to land on Clinton by default, and I resent that.
Oh the plus side, you could take solace in the fact that she is not nearly as awful as you think she is.
We'll have four years to see if you're right. Since this isn't the Hillary thread I'll stop there.
You've had decades.
And I see a neocon who's in Wall Street's pocket.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:21 pm
by LordMortis
Kraken wrote:And I see a neocon who's in Wall Street's pocket.
With one notable exception. Way back at the beginning of her husband's federal level political career, she was the driving force to begin the discussion of bringing socialized medicine to the table in the US and she stuck to that discussion, even in the face failure. Something that would be uncharacteristic of her later career. It's an exception but it's huge one... and yet still not enough to overcome WalMart, IMO.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:27 pm
by GreenGoo
Kraken wrote: And I see a neocon who's in Wall Street's pocket.
Ok, that's a fair assessment, even if I don't completely agree with it. If that's your reason for disliking her, you're not in for any surprises over the next 4 years. :D

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:29 pm
by GreenGoo
Defiant wrote: <snip Ben Carson stuff>
And I think that's fair and reasonable. Compromise is the only way to actually achieve anything when working with groups of people with varying viewpoints. As long as you don't abandon your values or sell them for a mule, I don't have any problem with what he said.

And that applies to everyone, not just Christians.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:34 pm
by El Guapo
Important information for people for whom e-mail security is their #1 presidential issue.
In what might be one of the more delicious cases of irony to ever grace a presidential election, a researcher has found that a number of email servers linked to Donald Trump’s hotel and others businesses are running horribly out of date software which receive no security patches, and are lacking other precautions for keeping hackers out.

The findings come at a time when cybersecurity is a crucial topic in the presidential election, with hackers dumping documents from Hillary Clinton’s campaign online, and Trump and his supporters continuing to criticise Clinton’s use of a private email server.

“Running outdated software and operating systems for your publicly facing email infrastructure is problematic, especially when you're a high profile organisation,” security architect Kevin Beaumont, who highlighted the issues with Trump’s servers, told Motherboard in an email. “During an election where cybersecurity is such a big issue, I was a little amazed at what I saw.”

A number of mail servers for TrumpOrg.com, a domain registered to The Trump Organization, are using end-of-life software, according to Beaumont. Those include the operating system Windows Server 2003 and IIS 6.0, which comes shipped with it.

“IIS is a webserver, and it’s particularly dangerous to run unpatched,” Beaumont told Motherboard.


“During an election where cybersecurity is such a big issue, I was a little amazed at what I saw.”


According to Microsoft’s official website, “Microsoft will no longer issue security updates for any version of Windows Server 2003. If you are still running Windows Server 2003 in your datacenter, you need to take steps now to plan and execute a migration strategy to protect your infrastructure.” Microsoft ended support for that operating system in July 2015.

“It's rather worse than just using an out of date OS that can’t be kept up to date with security patches as vulnerabilities are discovered,” Professor Alan Woodward, visiting professor at the University of Surrey’s Department of Computer Science, told Motherboard in a Twitter message. “The configuration of the server appears to be somewhat less than ideal.”

On top of all this, Beaumont said the email service only uses single factor authentication. That is, users can’t link a device, say their mobile phone, to receive an extra login code, and to keep their account more secure.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trumpocalypse

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:41 pm
by Defiant
Don't worry, his 10 year old son is on it.