Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:24 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:20 amHe's making a powerful statement about his view of Christianity.

He has a view on Christianity that doesn't involve dollar signs? That predatory grin he shoots at the camera at :25 chills my blood. I wish people would see through this sort of act. We'd certainly be a better society without monsters like this influencing our society.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:44 pm

Ive always thought people like him were part insane, part stupid, and part evil. Even as a kid I couldn't stand them.

He is not influencing anyone that doesn't allow themselves to be influenced.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:59 pm

Solano County Reports First Known Flu and COVID-19 Co-Infection

The patient diagnosed with both coronavirus and the seasonal flu is between the ages 20 and 65 and works in the health care sector, a county official confirmed Friday.

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About 20% of grocery store workers had Covid-19, and most didn't have symptoms, study found

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:43 pm

Just heard that Utah is reporting 2,292 new cases today, with an 18.2% positivity rate.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:56 pm

Skinypupy wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:43 pm Just heard that Utah is reporting 2,292 new cases today, with an 18.2% positivity rate.

in terms of state 'all time total infected', Utah is at this moment a mere 10 cases behind Washington state (the traditional 'origin' of the pandemic in the US)

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:38 pm

CNBC

Cruise stocks rose Friday after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced it will replace its nearly 8-month old no-sail order with a less restrictive “Conditional Sailing Order.”

The no-sail order expires Saturday. The new conditional order will remain in effect until either Nov. 1, 2021, the expiration of the Department of Health and Human Services’ declaration of a public health emergency or when CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield decides to end it.
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The new order establishes a framework that will help the industry implement safety measures that will enable it to resume operations in U.S. waters in a phased approach, the CDC said in a statement. Before restarting passenger operations in any commercial form, the companies will face tests from the CDC on how safe their protocols are, the agency said.
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Last month, Redfield pushed to extend the order until February 2021, according to Axios, which cited two people familiar with the matter. Axios reported that Vice President Mike Pence overruled Redfield to extend the ban until Oct. 31.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:21 pm

Because why the fuck not. People in charge are idiots.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:59 pm

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... 8400820231

NBC News confirms: Today marks a new single-day record of COVID-19 cases in the United States: 97,088 cases.

It is the second day in a row where new cases have exceeded 90,000.

Little Raven · Post by **Little Raven** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:03 pm

If it makes you feel any better....

Covid is spreading "significantly" faster through England than even the government's predicted "worst-case" scenario, documents reveal.

The Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) says there are around four times as many people catching Covid than anticipated.

A "reasonable worst-case scenario" is used by officials and the NHS to plan for the months ahead.

It had estimated 85,000 deaths from Covid over the course of winter.

But an official Sage document, dated 14 October and published today, reveals we are in a worse position than expected.

Scientists crunching the numbers estimated that, by mid-October, there were between 43,000 and 74,000 people being infected with coronavirus every day in England.

Their report said: "This is significantly above the profile of the reasonable worst-case scenario, where the number of daily infections in England remained between 12,000-13,000 throughout October."

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:36 pm

When is a worst case scenario reasonable?

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:32 pm

Hey if Trump hadn't shut down some flights from China, there would be six billion dead by now. Thank your lucky stars we have someone like him in charge.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:10 pm

Fool of a town had its annual Block Party today and will again tomorrow. Video showed crowds packed in lines, kids no masks, lots of adults no mask. Mask were not required. One guy was behind plexiglass sliding candy down a large pvc pipe which is ok I guess but then he started talking down the same pipe without a mask on. Sigh. We always said if God was going to give the Earth and enema he'd stick it in this town as its the butthole of the universe.

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:41 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:10 am Wonder if this will resonate better with the antis.

If you read the comments on that article attacking the writer and military.com, you know the answer is no.

GungHo · Post by **GungHo** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:37 am

Daehawk wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:36 pm When is a worst case scenario reasonable?

That's an excellent question

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:44 am

Kurth wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:46 pm And, the first person I know who has COVID-19 is . . . me.

Started feeling off last Thursday. Not terrible, but just not great. Enough that I felt I needed to cancel a dentist appointment I had scheduled for that day. By the weekend, I was feeling shitty. A headache I just couldn't shake and an annoying cough. Got tested on Sunday (that nasal swab was NOT pleasant), and got the results back yesterday. Positive. Bummer.

Wife and kids are all symptom-free so far, and they went and got tested yesterday, so we'll see what their results are.

I'm currently quarantining from the rest of my family in the basement and still feeling pretty bad. The worst is the persistent headache I just can't seem to shake. Really uncomfortable. Between that and the intermittent fever/chills, it really does feel like a bad case of the flu.

Still doing (relatively) ok?

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:55 am

Victoria Raverna wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:41 am
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:10 am Wonder if this will resonate better with the antis.
If you read the comments on that article attacking the writer and military.com, you know the answer is no.

Crap.

I don't read comments. My faith in my fellow man is tenuous at best already.

raydude · Post by **raydude** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:22 am

Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:38 pm CNBC

Cruise stocks rose Friday after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced it will replace its nearly 8-month old no-sail order with a less restrictive “Conditional Sailing Order.”

The no-sail order expires Saturday. The new conditional order will remain in effect until either Nov. 1, 2021, the expiration of the Department of Health and Human Services’ declaration of a public health emergency or when CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield decides to end it.
...
The new order establishes a framework that will help the industry implement safety measures that will enable it to resume operations in U.S. waters in a phased approach, the CDC said in a statement. Before restarting passenger operations in any commercial form, the companies will face tests from the CDC on how safe their protocols are, the agency said.
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Last month, Redfield pushed to extend the order until February 2021, according to Axios, which cited two people familiar with the matter. Axios reported that Vice President Mike Pence overruled Redfield to extend the ban until Oct. 31.

I would think that even with this opening up, the invisible hand of Death will eventually slap the invisible hand of the Economy and shut cruises down again. In other words, once people start getting COVID on cruise ships folks will stop booking tickets.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:39 am

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 1:35 pm After three months of all in-person teaching, my son's "We don't need no stinkin' precautions!" school just had the state step in and tell them to go hybrid after the state reached 9% positive and passed 200/100,000 in new cases.

So, this was implemented starting yesterday. The implementation was completely Indiana.

They divided the student body into two groups, Red Group and Blue Group (the school colors.) Each group is in-person on alternating days, so Red is M, W, F, then Tu, Th, and Blue is the alternative days. Seems like a reasonable plan. How could they screw it up?

Well, instead of dividing the student body in half, they did it by last name and divided the alphabet in half, 13 letters in each group. Red is A-M and BLue is N-Z. Yeah, one group gets J, M, D, and C, the other gets Q, U, V, X, Y and Z. As a result, Red Group is 3/4 of the student body, and Blue Group is 1/4. And these are the people educating my children. The scary part is that we go out of our way to take them to this school, clear over in the next county, because it is better than the local school.

/edit - and the governor has reaffirmed that being at stage 5 - complete reopening - is the right move and won't dial it back. And he's ahead by 20+ points, so it won't be changing anytime soon. Goodbye, cruel world.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:18 pm

Sorry to hear that Kurth and RM9. Hope it's as mild as it can be.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:08 pm

Who could’ve guessed packing people together without masks would be a bad idea?

https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/sta ... 05313?s=21

Spoiler:

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:34 pm

Alefroth wrote:Sorry to hear that Kurth and RM9. Hope it's as mild as it can be.

So far it’s just been fever and some associated aches/pains. Breathing is good and O2 levels are still high. My wife is on Day Five of isolation, so hopefully half way through. The rest of us have about 10 days left of quarantine I guess.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:32 pm

BREAKING: British Prime Minister Boris Johnson says England will enter a monthlong lockdown on Thursday to curb a surging coronavirus outbreak.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/13 ... 3324064771

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:40 pm

RunningMn9 wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:34 pm
Alefroth wrote:Sorry to hear that Kurth and RM9. Hope it's as mild as it can be.
So far it’s just been fever and some associated aches/pains. Breathing is good and O2 levels are still high. My wife is on Day Five of isolation, so hopefully half way through. The rest of us have about 10 days left of quarantine I guess.

I heard on the radio yesterday that the chance of being infected by someone you live with is only about 50%. That's lower than I would have expected.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:59 pm

malchior wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:32 pm BREAKING: British Prime Minister Boris Johnson says England will enter a monthlong lockdown on Thursday to curb a surging coronavirus outbreak.

I guess there won't be any more in-person Brexit negotiations.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:08 am

Alefroth wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:40 pmI heard on the radio yesterday that the chance of being infected by someone you live with is only about 50%. That's lower than I would have expected.

Interesting message from a radio person, but there *have* to be a lot more details at work to have that be a meaningful number.

Best of luck to Kurth and Mrs. RM9.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:53 pm

The Meal wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:08 am
Alefroth wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:40 pmI heard on the radio yesterday that the chance of being infected by someone you live with is only about 50%. That's lower than I would have expected.
Interesting message from a radio person, but there *have* to be a lot more details at work to have that be a meaningful number.

Best of luck to Kurth and Mrs. RM9.

Not sure if this is the source of the radio person's comment, but here's a little more detail from a somewhat small study.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/health/g ... ed-person/

Kurth · Post by **Kurth** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:19 pm

stessier wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 3:44 am
Kurth wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 2:46 pm And, the first person I know who has COVID-19 is . . . me.

Started feeling off last Thursday. Not terrible, but just not great. Enough that I felt I needed to cancel a dentist appointment I had scheduled for that day. By the weekend, I was feeling shitty. A headache I just couldn't shake and an annoying cough. Got tested on Sunday (that nasal swab was NOT pleasant), and got the results back yesterday. Positive. Bummer.

Wife and kids are all symptom-free so far, and they went and got tested yesterday, so we'll see what their results are.

I'm currently quarantining from the rest of my family in the basement and still feeling pretty bad. The worst is the persistent headache I just can't seem to shake. Really uncomfortable. Between that and the intermittent fever/chills, it really does feel like a bad case of the flu.
Still doing (relatively) ok?

Last week sucked, but I feel like I turned a corner yesterday, and today I would say I’m cautiously optimistic I am on the mend. I’ve still got an annoyingly persistent cough, and my energy levels aren’t anywhere close to normal, but I’m getting my appetite back and, above all, the horrible headache I had for like five days straight last week finally seems to be in the rear view mirror. Once the headache receded, I started getting a decent night’s sleep, and I think that’s really helped.

My two boys Who tested positive are still asymptomatic, And my wife and daughter are also still feeling fine, so good news there, too.

Thanks for checking in, and I appreciate all the OO good wishes!

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:23 pm

Glad to hear it.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:27 pm

Indeed, that's all good news.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:28 pm

Glad you're on the mend!

And I'm not sure how I missed the news about Mrs. RM9 - glad to hear she is doing okay as well!

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:56 pm

Hoping for a speedy and uncomplicated recovery for everyone! And thanks for sharing the news.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:09 pm

Excellent news!

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:45 pm

Holman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:18 am Counterpoint: Trump's recovery proves that Christians are immune to the virus.

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/stat ... 48066?s=20

He was great in The Rocketeer though.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:33 am

The insanity of the death cult and their leader continues:

https://twitter.com/phil_lewis_/status/ ... 83296?s=21

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:44 am

Holman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:18 am Counterpoint: Trump's recovery proves that Christians are immune to the virus.

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/stat ... 48066?s=20

Copeland is s long time charlatan. He’s one of those prosperity preacher, “name it “, claim it” types who says God told him he neede a private jet. I wouldn’t be surprised at anything he says.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:48 am

Alefroth wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:18 pm Sorry to hear that Kurth and RM9. Hope it's as mild as it can be.

Sorry, I haven’t been following this thread as closely. I hope both of you and your families are doing ok.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:53 am

This is why the disease is spreading in rural Red America. The level of willful stubbornness and stupidity is chilling:

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:34 am

Wow. That video is something; thanks for posting it.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:40 am

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:34 am Wow. That video is something; thanks for posting it.

Agreed. It is depressing and I can't help but feel that if we didn't have monstrous, evil leadership that maybe with the right support we could have helped them. However, it is probably hopeless now.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:45 am

malchior wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:40 am
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:34 am Wow. That video is something; thanks for posting it.
Agreed. It is depressing and I can't help but feel that if we didn't have monstrous, evil leadership that maybe with the right support we could have helped them. However, it is probably hopeless now.

All Trump had to do was say, "Wear a mask to Make America Great," and his people would have followed suit.

Instead, he opted for wishful thinking and then reactionary anti-science. So so much of this spread is directly his fault.