Octopus Overlords

Drazzil wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:53 pmWe need a third party now. Not later, NOW.

We also need to start organizing ALL forms of resistance NOW. Occupying federal buildings while armed with the aim of not being disbanded. We need to strike at the economy by not buying things from red states, strike at the political system by getting physically in their faces and not backing down when the pigs show up, strike at the infrastructure by using our bodies to block freeways, train tracks, air travel etc etc etc. We need to protest wall street and sew our balls on and fight whoever comes to crush us.

Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:51 pm That would also be actual work to really help kids. Which isn't the point.

gbasden wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:15 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:51 pm That would also be actual work to really help kids. Which isn't the point.

Right. It's been said a million times, but the Republicans have no interest in live children. Just potential children.

$iljanus wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:51 pm Potential children born into high income brackets.

Daehawk wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:25 am If the GOP hates giving out money for kids because its 'socialism' just wait until the new babies are forced born on them.

Daehawk wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:31 am GOP congress members can now start paying their fair share of child support to their mistresses and settle lawsuits.

Two things only the people anxiously desire — bread and circuses.

Daehawk wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:25 am If the GOP hates giving out money for kids because its 'socialism' just wait until the new babies are forced born on them.

Martha Raddatz to Gov. Kristi Noem: "The 14 states that have the most restrictive abortion laws, including South Dakota, invest the least in policies and programs for women and children. So what do you mean when you say these mothers will never be alone?"

Zarathud wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:35 am Frankly, I think it’s time to force Republicans (and everyone else) to mask up if the constitutional principles behind Roe no longer stand.

Alefroth wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:09 pm

Zarathud wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:35 am Frankly, I think it’s time to force Republicans (and everyone else) to mask up if the constitutional principles behind Roe no longer stand.

Let's roll out mandatory blood donations.

Holman wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:02 pm

Alefroth wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:09 pm

Zarathud wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:35 am Frankly, I think it’s time to force Republicans (and everyone else) to mask up if the constitutional principles behind Roe no longer stand.

Let's roll out mandatory blood donations.

Kidneys
Livers
Corneas

Alefroth wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:10 pm What happens the first time a woman in one of the fascist states is in imminent danger of dying and the only thing that can save her is an abortion? She doesn't get it and she dies. It seems like the potential for a lawsuit is enormous.

Imagine being a doctor and standing by while someone dies because your hands are tied.

On 21 October 2012, Halappanavar, then 17 weeks pregnant, was examined at University Hospital Galway after complaining of back pain, but was soon discharged without a diagnosis. She returned to the hospital later that day, this time complaining of lower pressure, a sensation she described as feeling "something coming down," and a subsequent examination found that the gestational sac was protruding from her body. She was admitted to hospital, as it was determined that miscarriage was unavoidable, and several hours later, just after midnight on 22 October, her water broke but did not expel the fetus.[8]: 22–26 [8]: 29 [9] The following day, on 23 October, Halappanavar discussed abortion with her consulting physician but her request was promptly refused, as Irish law at that time forbade abortion if a fetal heartbeat was still present.[8]: 33 [10] Afterwards, Halappanavar developed sepsis and, despite doctors' efforts to treat her, had a cardiac arrest at 1:09 AM on 28 October, at the age of 31, and died.

A Louisiana judge has blocked the state's abortion "trigger law" banning the procedure at any stage of pregnancy.

The controversial law, which was passed in 2006, makes no exceptions in cases of rape or incest.

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On Monday, Orleans Parish Civil District Court Judge Robinson Giarruso temporarily blocked enforcement of the Louisiana law and set a hearing for 8 July.

A lawsuit filed Monday morning by the Center for Reproductive Rights on behalf of local abortion providers argued that trigger bans "lack constitutionally required safeguards to prevent arbitrary enforcement" and are "void for vagueness".

A Utah judge has blocked a state law that banned elective abortions in the state in the wake of a Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade last week.

Judge Andrew Stone sided with the Planned Parenthood Association of Utah and the ACLU of Utah during a hearing Monday afternoon.

gilraen wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:27 pm

Here, the hospital will just settle with the family for a bazillion dollars (unless their lawyers can figure out how to bury the family in paperwork and appeals for years and hope they go away). The doctor will quietly change jobs or retire. If it's a small hospital and/or in a poor/rural area, they may get rid of their OB/GYN department entirely and not bother with all those "womenfolk" problems any more.

And the ruling on Friday unleashed a gusher of Democratic donations: $20.5 million that day on ActBlue, the Democratic online donation-processing platform. It was the single biggest day for contributions on the site since 2020, according to a New York Times analysis. By late Tuesday morning, a total of more than $50 million had been processed since the decision came out on Friday.

malchior wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:02 pm John Oliver called this out too.

Kansas City area health system stops providing Plan B in Missouri because of abortion ban

Saint Luke’s has a significant presence across Kansas City, operating 16 hospitals and campuses across the region, in both Kansas and Missouri. In a statement, Saint Luke’s spokesperson Laurel Gifford said the health system continues to evaluate the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade and Missouri’s abortion ban, which went into effect following the decision.

“To ensure we adhere to all state and federal laws—and until the law in this area becomes better defined—Saint Luke’s will not provide emergency contraception at our Missouri-based locations,” Gifford said in a statement.

The new policy may add to fears that Missouri’s abortion ban will eventually affect access to the birth control. Contraceptives, including Plan B, remain legal in Missouri and there have been no reports of pharmacies refusing to sell them in the wake of the ban.

hepcat wrote:Once you start asking the typical anti abortion supporter to actually chip in their tax dollars to support the babies they "saved", I think we'll see a change of heart in more than a few.

Smoove_B wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:23 pm

The new policy,which directly affects access to birth control, may add to fears that Missouri’s abortion ban will eventually affect access to the birth control. Contraceptives, including Plan B, remain legal in Missouri and there have been no reports of pharmacies refusing to sell them in the wake of the ban.