Octopus Overlords

gilraen wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:14 amJanuary 20, you mean?

Little Raven wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:36 am

gilraen wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:14 amJanuary 20, you mean?

21st, actually. I don't know why I thought it was January 23rd.

But yeah, you get the idea.

Holman wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 am If Biden wins and Dems take the senate (which is seated on January 3), congress should impeach and remove Trump before the presidential inauguration. He's definitely earned it.

Holman wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 am If Biden wins and Dems take the senate (which is seated on January 3), congress should impeach and remove Trump before the presidential inauguration. He's definitely earned it.

Holman wrote:If Biden wins and Dems take the senate (which is seated on January 3), congress should impeach and remove Trump before the presidential inauguration. He's definitely earned it.

Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am

Holman wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:51 am If Biden wins and Dems take the senate (which is seated on January 3), congress should impeach and remove Trump before the presidential inauguration. He's definitely earned it.

That would be great.
Not sure we would have the votes to actually remove.

Judge asks district attorney why he didn’t take Trump’s tax returns weeks ago

NEW YORK — A federal appeals judge on Friday questioned why Manhattan's district attorney declined to execute a grand jury subpoena for President Trump's long-sought tax returns when it appeared after a recent court order that prosecutors had an opportunity to do so.

Judge Pierre N. Leval said he believed that the order issued Sept. 1 by a separate three-member panel of judges from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit was meant to pause a lower court’s dismissal of Trump’s renewed bid to kill the subpoena — but that it did not prevent the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr. (D), from collecting the president’s financial records from his accounting firm in the meantime.

“The stay was a stay on dismissal of complaint,” Leval said during questioning of a lawyer for the district attorney. “It was not a stay on execution of subpoena.”

A stay is a judicial order that temporarily prevents an event that is the subject of litigation from taking place.

The judge added that the “existence of the complaint doesn’t stop the district attorney from enforcing the subpoena.”

Carey Dunne, general counsel in the district attorney’s office, said the appeals court’s Sept. 1 order was not interpreted that way.

Court temporarily blocks enforcement of subpoena for Trump’s tax records

Both sides were ordered to submit by Tuesday written arguments explaining how each interpreted the order, which did not offer specific guidance on whether the subpoena was subject to the stay. Rather, it only generally granted the intervention Trump and his attorneys sought.

Trump’s attorneys have argued that the president would lose his right to litigate his challenge if the district attorney already has the president’s financial records. The comparison often offered in such situations is that one cannot “unring” a bell.

milo wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:27 pm Impeachment conviction is not subject to pardon.

milo wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:27 pm Impeachment conviction is not subject to pardon.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:15 pm
The "Impeached" tag isn't shit to a man like Trump.

WOW! Judge Sullivan asked Flynn's attorney, Sidney Powell, if she talked about Flynn's case with Trump. She tried to invoke executive privilege!!! Then she said she updated Trump personally on the Flynn case!!!

Portions of the Mueller report that had been redacted by the U.S. Department of Justice must be published, according to a Wednesday ruling by a federal judge.
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"Based on the Court's review of the unredacted version of the Mueller Report, the Court concludes that the Department has failed to satisfy its burden to demonstrate that the withheld material is protected by the deliberative process privilege," Judge Walton wrote in his Wednesday ruling.

Walton ordered the DOJ to publish previously redacted information involving Mueller's "deliberations about decisions not to prosecute" certain individuals. According to the ruling, that sort of information is not classified as privileged.

CNN has received the Justice Department's 11th disclosure of major witness interview memos from the Mueller investigation, giving new insight into some of the most consequential investigative steps taken by the FBI and special counsel prosecutors.

The documents are being released as part of a 2019 lawsuit in conjunction with Buzzfeed News.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced that he had "fully authorized" declassification of all documents pertaining to the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's use of a private service for official emails.

"I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax," the president tweeted this afternoon. "Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!"

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Monday said Trump had "tasked me with getting some declassification rolling" as the president was recovering from COVID-19 at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Officials began releasing documents on Tuesday.

Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:21 am Newsweek

President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced that he had "fully authorized" declassification of all documents pertaining to the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's use of a private service for official emails.

"I have fully authorized the total Declassification of any & all documents pertaining to the single greatest political CRIME in American History, the Russia Hoax," the president tweeted this afternoon. "Likewise, the Hillary Clinton Email Scandal. No redactions!"

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Monday said Trump had "tasked me with getting some declassification rolling" as the president was recovering from COVID-19 at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Officials began releasing documents on Tuesday.

pr0ner wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:53 am Trump loses again in his tax case. Likely gonna give SCOTUS one last shot.

El Guapo wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:06 am Mission's already accomplished - resolution postponed until after the election.

Also, what's covered by the subpoena that hasn't been published by the NYT?

Holman wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:56 am
A judge has asked the WH to clarify whether a POTUS tweet actually counts as an order to declassify.

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:21 am

Holman wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:56 am
A judge has asked the WH to clarify whether a POTUS tweet actually counts as an order to declassify.

I would hope it wouldn't, as a twitter account could always been hacked.

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:46 am There was always nothing there of substance. The news in effect is that either Barr has concluded that the politics of announcing something are bad for Trump and/or Durham was refusing to go along with the scheme.

Grifman wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:21 am The Durham “investigation” results will not be coming out before Election Day. To me this means there is really nothing there. If there was they would be sure to have at least something out before then:

...sweeping review...

geezer wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:28 am

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:46 am There was always nothing there of substance. The news in effect is that either Barr has concluded that the politics of announcing something are bad for Trump and/or Durham was refusing to go along with the scheme.

Maybe Barr has had a crisis of conscience and realized that interfering this close to an election in a transparently partisan manner is just too much.

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:44 amThat said, that we are already at the point where the President is openly calling for his political opponents to be arrested on transparently thin grounds without it registering as a major scandal is a five alarm fire. If Trump manages to stay in office for another term, I think it is more likely than not that Trump will be able to get DOJ to arrest political opponents by the end of his second term.

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:44 am That said, that we are already at the point where the President is openly calling for his political opponents to be arrested on transparently thin grounds without it registering as a major scandal is a five alarm fire. If Trump manages to stay in office for another term, I think it is more likely than not that Trump will be able to get DOJ to arrest political opponents by the end of his second term.

Octavious wrote:He still has something up about being entitled to another 4 years. He will 100 percent try if he somehow get reelected.

Holman wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:02 pm

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:44 am That said, that we are already at the point where the President is openly calling for his political opponents to be arrested on transparently thin grounds without it registering as a major scandal is a five alarm fire. If Trump manages to stay in office for another term, I think it is more likely than not that Trump will be able to get DOJ to arrest political opponents by the end of his second term.

In his third term the sweep of journalists begins.