Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:06 am
Unless they somehow also had the transcript for Trump's call with Pena Nieto, probably not.Unagi wrote:Is there any argument that Australia leaked the transcript?
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Unless they somehow also had the transcript for Trump's call with Pena Nieto, probably not.Unagi wrote:Is there any argument that Australia leaked the transcript?
Good point.ImLawBoy wrote:Unless they somehow also had the transcript for Trump's call with Pena Nieto, probably not.Unagi wrote:Is there any argument that Australia leaked the transcript?
We would if you would only stop trying to drag me into yours.Unagi wrote:Get A RoomRip wrote:Ahh, but I'm not a words person and I am poor. The lawsuit people won't waste their time on me.hepcat wrote:If that were possible, Hillary Clinton would own your ass.Rip wrote:I just can't believe what the words people are writing about him.
May need to have the lawsuit people look into it.
Yeah, he's a good suspect as well. Then again, now that he has the time, he may be busy getting his revenge on his parents for naming him "Reince".Unagi wrote:I was thinking Reince Priebus was more likely for this one.
He's raw.
...and was more suspected, IIRC, of being a suspected leaker
During a recess Trump has the authority to replace Sessions without Senate confirmation. Banging the gavel means that technically, this isn't a recess.Octavious wrote:Is it typical for them to do this go in every 3 days and bang a gavel thing during recess, or is this a Trump special to keep him from doing more dumb shit?
They did it during Obama's terms too.Octavious wrote:Is it typical for them to do this go in every 3 days and bang a gavel thing during recess, or is this a Trump special to keep him from doing more dumb shit?
Are you referring to when they did it to Obama?malchior wrote:It is sort of interesting they are doing it with their own President. Trust levels are not high.
That was 2012, which was not "their own president".Rip wrote:Are you referring to when they did it to Obama?malchior wrote:It is sort of interesting they are doing it with their own President. Trust levels are not high.
I wonder if there are special requirements (full offroad, bulletproof, rifle/shotgun rack, etc.).Smoove_B wrote:Guess what the secret service has spent $60,000 on this year.
Spoiler:
36 holes with no recharge.Pyperkub wrote:I wonder if there are special requirements (full offroad, bulletproof, rifle/shotgun rack, etc.).Smoove_B wrote:Guess what the secret service has spent $60,000 on this year.
Spoiler:
Twice a day since the beginning of the Trump administration, a special folder is prepared for the president. The first document is prepared around 9:30 a.m. and the follow-up, around 4:30 p.m. Former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and former Press Secretary Sean Spicer both wanted the privilege of delivering the 20-to-25-page packet to President Trump personally, White House sources say.
These sensitive papers, described to VICE News by three current and former White House officials, don’t contain top-secret intelligence or updates on legislative initiatives. Instead, the folders are filled with screenshots of positive cable news chyrons (those lower-third headlines and crawls), admiring tweets, transcripts of fawning TV interviews, praise-filled news stories, and sometimes just pictures of Trump on TV looking powerful.
Stephen Miller: "President #Trump's the most gifted politician of our time, and he's the best orator to hold that office in generations."
As I pointed out to him, he didn't actually give the order to do the thing either. His first order as President was to neuter the ACA. He's never issued an EO regarding modernizing or boosting our nuclear arsenal. Which he probably couldn't even do anyway, do the enormous cost of such an endeavor (which would probably require an act of congress).Chaz wrote:He's therefore conflated giving the order to do a thing, and the thing actually happening.
Actually, he did order a nuclear posture review, just as Obama did before him. However anything that has actually been implemented since Trump entered office is the result of Obama's initiative (which is true of much for which Trump has taken credit).RunningMn9 wrote:As I pointed out to him, he didn't actually give the order to do the thing either. His first order as President was to neuter the ACA. He's never issued an EO regarding modernizing or boosting our nuclear arsenal. Which he probably couldn't even do anyway, do the enormous cost of such an endeavor (which would probably require an act of congress).Chaz wrote:He's therefore conflated giving the order to do a thing, and the thing actually happening.
On Jan. 27, one week after his inauguration, Trump issued an executive order directing the Defense Department to launch a Nuclear Posture Review, a major undertaking that will set his administration's nuclear policy.
The Pentagon has said the review, which officially began in April, is expected to be completed by the end of the year. It is expected to guide the Defense Department as it builds new nuclear-capable submarines, bombers and intercontinental ballistic missiles in coming years. Full modernization of the arsenal could then take many years.
The last such review was conducted in 2010 under the Obama administration, which developed a purchasing plan to update all three legs of the nuclear triad with modernized weapon systems that would not be completed until well into the 2020s.
“Any decision that the president were to take now, or that he took in January, would take years to implement,” said Jon Wolfsthal, who served in the Obama administration as the National Security Council's senior director for nonproliferation and arms control. “I'm very skeptical of the idea that Trump believes that he has modernized or adjusted our arsenal because there have been no visible changes to it.”
Rest assured when he gets called on not having overhauled the entire US Nuclear arsenal in the first six months of his presidency, one of two things will happen. A) He will ignore the criticism and move on to some other nationally embarrassment of a hyperbole B) Blame Congress for failing to implement his tweets.RunningMn9 wrote:(which would probably require an act of congress).
Right. But ordering a nuclear posture review is not ordering that we modernize or boost our nuclear arsenal. Also, your second link went to the EO, not to what a Nuclear Posture Review actually is.Max Peck wrote:Actually, he did order a nuclear posture review, just as Obama did before him.
Who mandated it? What time frame? Also - it's a review. "Boosting" and "Modernizing" our nuclear arsenal requires more than reviewing our nuclear arsenal.The Nuclear Posture Review is a legislatively-mandated review that establishes U.S. nuclear policy, strategy, capabilities and force posture for the next five to ten years.
As I understand it, the modernization efforts resulting from Obama's review are still ongoing. In theory, progress may have been made in some respects over the course of this year, but if so it has been in spite of the Trump administration, not because of it.RunningMn9 wrote:And as far as I can tell, the last nuclear posture review was completed in 2010. Not sure when it was ordered. But they haven't issued a report yet on Trump's January EO. Presumably any actions taken from that review come after the review is complete.
We'll need to wait and see what rolls down Pennsylvania avenue at the soon-to-be scheduled military parade to honor his greatness, President Trump.Holman wrote:Trump said something about wanting to modernize and expand our nukes during the campaign. Isn't that the same as ordering it and achieving it?
Media run state, ftfySkinypupy wrote:In addition to his typical unhinged bullshit, in the last 24 hours, Trump has retweeted 9 stories from Fox News.
State run media, indeed.
This is actually consistent for Trump (for the last few weeks). Shocking, I know, but he set his sights on (Republican leadership in) Congress (and specifically the Senate) two weeks ago. Putintine plans to use DonDon Trump to put a vote of no confidence to dissolve the Senate, I think, after he weakens the sanctioned military and hands internationally policing to an independent Blackwater group, for which Putintine holds favor. Rumor has it, they'll mask the take over with disputes over unfair federated trade disputes.Smoove_B wrote:...and now President Trump is taking shots at Mitch McConnell. This is glorious!.
LordMortis wrote:This is actually consistent for Trump (for the last few weeks). Shocking, I know, but he set his sights on (Republican leadership in) Congress (and specifically the Senate) two weeks ago. Putintine plans to use DonDon Trump to put a vote of no confidence to dissolve the Senate, I think, after he weakens the sanctioned military and hands internationally policing to an independent Blackwater group, for which Putintine holds favor. Rumor has it, they'll mask the take over with disputes over unfair federated trade disputes.Smoove_B wrote:...and now President Trump is taking shots at Mitch McConnell. This is glorious!.
Or something like that.
Edit: Oh Internet, don't ever change
Edit:
Didn't Trump hire McConnell's wife? Loyalty!
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... mp/532320/
here we go!
"'The President ... Says What He Wants to Say'
Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao tried to explain Donald Trump’s tweets..."
Since President Trump won the Republican nomination, the majority of his companies’ real estate sales are to secretive shell companies that obscure the buyers’ identities, a USA TODAY investigation has found.
Over the last 12 months, about 70% of buyers of Trump properties were limited liability companies – corporate entities that allow people to purchase property without revealing all of the owners’ names. That compares with about 4% of buyers in the two years before.
USA TODAY journalists have spent six months cataloging every condo, penthouse or other property that Trump and his companies own – and tracking the buyers behind every transaction. The investigation found Trump’s companies owned more than 430 individual properties worth well over $250 million.