Corona Virus: It's a Marathon, Not a Sprint

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:47 pm

You should have called me Mikayla.

I'll call you Mikayla but wont that make your wife upset?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:48 am

https://twitter.com/leahjdouglas/status ... 0560896000

GungHo · Post by **GungHo** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:49 am

Smoove_B wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:05 pm You're absolutely correct and they should not be permitted imho. Again, rather than paying businesses to stay closed we're apparently turning a blind eye in communities where they are setting up quasi-indoor environments outdoors to circumvent the indoor limitations they agreed to operate under.

Eventually there will be a cluster outbreak associated with an outdoor tent and everyone will look around and wonder how it happened.

Heard a good quote from the county judge in El Paso last night, he said 'instead of trying to maximize the economy and minimize the effect of the virus on people's lives, we should be trying to maximize people's lives and minimizing the effect of the virus on the economy'.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:58 am

GungHo wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:49 amHeard a good quote from the county judge in El Paso last night, he said 'instead of trying to maximize the economy and minimize the effect of the virus on people's lives, we should be trying to maximize people's lives and minimizing the effect of the virus on the economy'.

That's pretty good. The variant I've heard/seen is that we can always recover the economy. We can't recover lives.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:35 pm

https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1329470725967798274

BREAKING: CDC recommends against Thanksgiving travel.

You are seeing the first stages of a CDC being permitted to do their jobs.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:44 pm

Retraction in 3... 2...

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:46 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:35 pm https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1329470725967798274

BREAKING: CDC recommends against Thanksgiving travel.

You are seeing the first stages of a CDC being permitted to do their jobs.

And last stages as the people responsible are fired or reassigned to Alaska.

And the sad thing is that because so much disinformation and distrust has been sown by the administration for months I suspect that too many people will just go about their mask free business this Thanksgiving.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:43 am

Good on the press showing the proper level of outrage here. Fuck Pence. The right of course calls this the proper level of respect for the #FakeNews media.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrEricDing/s ... 0038157314

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:16 am

What gets me is the cowardice. They're quick to disenfranchise voters, blast out baseless accusations of fraud, refuse to cooperate in any way with the transition, etc. behind closed doors. But the second they are confronted they scurry away like frightened rats. Bunch of f-ing snowflakes.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:21 am

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1 ... 3097182208

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:15 am

Driving home from an increasing empty office yesterday at passed by several bars. They had the wedding tents set up outside but most people were inside, seated at tables. How, when indoor dining is shut down? There were one or two windows opened, apparently making it outdoor dining.

I did see one couple outside a noodle shop seated at an uncovered table enjoying a meal in winter coats and scarves. I wanted to stop and pay for their food but no parking - all the bar patrons.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:55 am

When a vaccine does come out I wish we could prioritize it so health care and first responders get it along with vulnerable populations, then teachers, restaurant workers, delivery and warehouse workers, then the rest of the people who practice social distancing and mask wearing.

Everyone else who scoffed at masks, denied the existence of the virus, held big parties and gatherings can go to the back of the line. Fuck 'em.

Little Raven · Post by **Little Raven** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:13 pm

$iljanus wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:55 am When a vaccine does come out I wish we could prioritize it so health care and first responders get it along with vulnerable populations, then teachers, restaurant workers, delivery and warehouse workers, then the rest of the people who practice social distancing and mask wearing.

Everyone else who scoffed at masks, denied the existence of the virus, held big parties and gatherings can go to the back of the line. Fuck 'em.

You're going to find a LOT of overlap in those two groups.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:26 pm

Especially if "vulnerable populations" includes those vulnerable due to stupidity.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:40 pm

Senator Rick Scott (R-FL) has tested positive.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics ... index.html

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:53 pm

$iljanus wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:55 am Everyone else who scoffed at masks, denied the existence of the virus, held big parties and gatherings can go to the back of the line. Fuck 'em.

Of course, if we really wanted to get a handle on the virus quickly, people that do all these things are probably the ones we want to give the vaccine to first...

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:59 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:53 pm
$iljanus wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:55 am Everyone else who scoffed at masks, denied the existence of the virus, held big parties and gatherings can go to the back of the line. Fuck 'em.
Of course, if we really wanted to get a handle on the virus quickly, people that do all these things are probably the ones we want to give the vaccine to first...

Unfortunately so. But these days I’m just exhausted catering to the irresponsible snowflakes that seem to be in abundance these days.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:10 pm

Now that it's public, I can share the plan for NJ with the hopes that other states are gearing up for similar roll-out and perhaps offer some HOPE.

New Jersey could get about 130,000 doses of Pfizer’s new coronavirus vaccine by Christmas and up to 460,000 total doses for vaccinations by January, with health care workers and the most vulnerable as the top priority, if emergency approvals are granted, Gov. Phil Murphy and state health officials said Friday.

...

There will be a three-phase distribution of the vaccines. Initial doses will go to vulnerable residents, such as those over 65 and with pre-existing conditions, and 650,00 health care workers in the state — including staff at hospitals, community health centers, doctors, pharmacies, and home health care workers.

It will also include staff and residents of longterm care facilities, where more than 7,000 people have died in the state of coronavirus complications.

Just to fix an error:

The Pfizer vaccine will be two doses 21 days apart and Modern two doses 28 weeks apart.

Moderna vaccine is two doses 28 days apart.

So realistically, anyone being vaccinated should expect about 1.5 months from time of initial vaccination to being fully immunized. Here's where it gets dicey:

If New Jersey wants to meet its vaccine goal, about 3,200 people a day five days every week in each of the state’s 21 counties would need to be vaccinated, Persichilli said last month.

By comparison, about 50% of New Jersey’s population receives the flu vaccine, and a little more than 70% of those are children, she said.

I am not confident there's going to be vaccine acceptance. However, I am quite curious to see what employers do to require it...

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:33 pm

Also note that # vaccinated = doses ÷ 2.

So if you vaccinate health workers first, you'd get less than half of them done by the end of January in NJ, with no one else.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:47 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:10 pm However, I am quite curious to see what employers do to require it...

I could easily see my employer requiring it if legally able to do so and I could also easily see there being some resistance.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:49 pm

*Cue AC/DC's Hell's Bells*

Large crowds and long lines were seen at O'Hare International Airport Friday as travelers prepared to depart Chicago ahead of the Thanksgiving holiday.

Photos showed people lined up in terminals, many within 6 feet with little social distancing in effect.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:52 pm

LordMortis wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:47 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:10 pm However, I am quite curious to see what employers do to require it...
I could easily see my employer requiring it if legally able to do so and I could also easily see there being some resistance.

Imagine what Octavious's employer is going to require.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:52 pm

https://twitter.com/GeorgeMycykNBC/stat ... 0498306048

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:53 pm

People suck.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:54 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:53 pm People suck.

People will do what they're allowed to get away with.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:56 pm

Guiliani nonsense redacted: It was parody account shenanigans.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:54 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:53 pm People suck.
People will do what they're allowed to get away with.

This whole thing has been the case against libertarianism. Humans at scale need consequences to see beyond their warped view of self interest.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:56 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:54 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:53 pm People suck.
People will do what they're allowed to get away with.

All encapsulated in, "People suck."

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:58 pm

malchior wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:56 pm So now that press conference yesterday was another super spreader event. Idiots. For so many reasons.

https://twitter.com/Rudy_Giuliani_/stat ... 8256718850

I'm almost certain that's satire.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:58 pm

malchior wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:56 pm So now that press conference yesterday was another super spreader event. Idiots. For so many reasons.

https://twitter.com/Rudy_Giuliani_/stat ... 8256718850

"COVID 9/11"? That not his verified account is it?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:59 pm

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:59 pm

His son tested positive last night and he was at the the 3-ring circus event yesterday, I think standing in the back of the room.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:59 pm

Do a lot of people put _ at the end of their name?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:00 pm

It got retweeted to me and I thought it had the check mark. It didn't. Whoops!

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:14 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:59 pm

You lose bam when you edit!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:20 pm

The edit was only the picture, but I will keep that in mind in the future.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:34 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:20 pm The edit was only the picture, but I will keep that in mind in the future.

OO TOS, Article XXIV, section 7, sub-sections a-d.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:13 pm

Parody account aside, the crack elite legal team around Giuliani is now in quarantine because Rudy's son (a Trump aide who has been with them for the press conferences and such) has tested positive.

Jenna Ellis said today that she and Rudy had negative tests. It's unclear what that means for anyone else involved.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:17 pm

malchior wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:56 pm Guiliani nonsense redacted: It was parody account shenanigans.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:54 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:53 pm People suck.
People will do what they're allowed to get away with.
This whole thing has been the case against libertarianism. Humans at scale need consequences to see beyond their warped view of self interest.

Many of those traveling to celebrate Tgiving will be attending funerals around Xmas. Few will make the connection.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:06 pm

Don Jr. has Covid19

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:10 pm

Many of those traveling to celebrate Tgiving will be attending funerals around Xmas. Few will make the connection.

Big Thanksgiving dinners mean small Christmas funerals.