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tgb wrote:I'm starting to think the media should cut back a bit. Last night's rally wasn't news. Anyone could have predicted what he was going to say and many did. It was Trump's Greatest Hits performed for his adoring fans.

Why help him broaden his exposure? The media can't come out of it ahead. Maybe the thing is to cover Trump when is does something newsworthy (at either end of the stupidity/cruelty scale) and treat these Nuremburg-like rallies just lay there as business as usual.

El Guapo wrote:
I agree, except that they should have started doing that over a year ago. At one point during the campaign CNN was literally broadcasting a shot of a podium waiting for Trump to come on. Meanwhile I don't think they broadcast literally any of Clinton's speeches live.

YellowKing wrote:I think the strategy is to give Trump the rope to hang himself. As much exposure as possible, so that everybody can see his temper tantrums. If the media doesn't cover it, the public will go back into "guess it's business as usual" mode.

YellowKing wrote:Every time Trump manages to put several coherent sentences together, there is undeserved praise from some sides and panic from other sides. However, Trump is Trump. The one certainty we have is that he WILL fuck things up in a matter of days, so any positive bump he gets from reading a teleprompter will be moot a week from now.

tgb wrote:

YellowKing wrote:I think the strategy is to give Trump the rope to hang himself. As much exposure as possible, so that everybody can see his temper tantrums. If the media doesn't cover it, the public will go back into "guess it's business as usual" mode.

Except it's not working. Trump spins any negative (i.e. accurate) coverage as more fake news from the failing, dishonest media, and the base eats it up.

It's little more than preaching to the choir.

Octavious wrote:I'm curious to see if any of the republicans call him out for omitting key parts of his response last week. Not going to hold my breath at this point as it seems that he gets away with anything he does. I almost broke my tv for the first half of the speech. And then he melted down and I was better.

tgb wrote:

YellowKing wrote:I think the strategy is to give Trump the rope to hang himself. As much exposure as possible, so that everybody can see his temper tantrums. If the media doesn't cover it, the public will go back into "guess it's business as usual" mode.

Except it's not working. Trump spins any negative (i.e. accurate) coverage as more fake news from the failing, dishonest media, and the base eats it up.

It's little more than preaching to the choir.

Octavious wrote:I just can't imagine that we went from Obama to a guy who lies about things that are f'n recorded and visible to everyone. It boggles my mind and nothing happens. He just keeps on doing it with no real consequences.

RunningMn9 wrote:

Octavious wrote:I just can't imagine that we went from Obama to a guy who lies about things that are f'n recorded and visible to everyone. It boggles my mind and nothing happens. He just keeps on doing it with no real consequences.

That's because most of the dummies that voted for him think that he is telling the truth. No matter what he says.

Holman wrote:I know Trump lying isn't news, but he claimed a crowd of 15,000 supporters in AZ.

I just read that, according the Fire Marshal, the venue holds fewer than 5,000, and it definitely wasn't full.

RunningMn9 wrote:

Octavious wrote:I just can't imagine that we went from Obama to a guy who lies about things that are f'n recorded and visible to everyone. It boggles my mind and nothing happens. He just keeps on doing it with no real consequences.

That's because most of the dummies that voted for him think that he is telling the truth. No matter what he says.

LordMortis wrote:

Holman wrote:I know Trump lying isn't news, but he claimed a crowd of 15,000 supporters in AZ.

I just read that, according the Fire Marshal, the venue holds fewer than 5,000, and it definitely wasn't full.

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/9001 ... 07801.html

noxiousdog wrote:

LordMortis wrote:

Holman wrote:I know Trump lying isn't news, but he claimed a crowd of 15,000 supporters in AZ.

I just read that, according the Fire Marshal, the venue holds fewer than 5,000, and it definitely wasn't full.

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/9001 ... 07801.html

In the comments, they said it was a bot account. Russian propaganda undermining the whole system?

Octavious wrote:I liked part of the speech about all the great things he has done. He listed one. Appointing Garland. Congrats you picked someone from a list. YOU ARE F'N AMAZING!!

tgb wrote:I'm starting to think the media should cut back a bit. Last night's rally wasn't news. Anyone could have predicted what he was going to say and many did. It was Trump's Greatest Hits performed for his adoring fans.

Why help him broaden his exposure?

YellowKing wrote:I think the strategy is to give Trump the rope to hang himself. As much exposure as possible, so that everybody can see his temper tantrums. If the media doesn't cover it, the public will go back into "guess it's business as usual" mode.

I personally want cameras on Trump 24/7. I want every fuck up and misstep broadcast to the world. If there's one thing I have total confidence in, it's Trump's inability to conduct himself like a normal human being. And the more examples of that we have, the faster we can get that moronic fuckface out of office.

Ironically, I believe the coverage that got Trump into office is the only tool we have to get him out.

“Therefore, we choose things that we think should sound right, should act right. They say about our president, ‘Well, he is not presidential.’ Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Thank goodness … he is not a polished politician. In other words, he is authentically — whether people like it or not — has been raised up by God. Because God says that He raises up and places all people in places of authority.”

She continued: “It is God who raises up a king. It is God that sets one down. When you fight against the plan of God, you are fighting against the hand of God.”

LordMortis wrote:When do Christians turn their backs on this sort of false idolatry? Isn't this what what protestants hate most? Self proclaimed divinity? Especially in popes and kings?

“I know that you’re Catholic, as am I, and it seems to me that most of the Republicans in the Congress are not willing to stand with the poor and working class as evidenced in the recent debates on health care and the anticipated tax reform,” Jordan said. “So, I’d like to ask you: how do you see yourself upholding the church’s social teaching that has the idea that God is always on the side of the poor and dispossessed as should we be?”

“Sister, this may come as a surprise to you but I completely agree with you,” he said, as sister Jordan stared at him stone-faced. “Where we may disagree on how to achieve that goal. We exercise judgment in practices or faith. For me — for the poor that’s key to the Catholic faith. That means mobility, economic growth, equality of opportunity.”

He went on to add: “I think we need to change our approach on fighting poverty. Instead of measuring success on how much money we spend or how many programs we create or how many people on those programs, let’s measure success and poverty on outcomes.”

Isgrimnur wrote:Mark 14:7: "The poor just need better economic opportunities"

7 The poor you will always have with you,[a] and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me.

LordMortis wrote:When do Christians turn their backs on this sort of false idolatry? Isn't this what what protestants hate most? Self proclaimed divinity? Especially in popes and kings?

The nation's largest Protestant denomination was founded in a split with northern Baptists over slavery, has a history of complicity with Jim Crow laws and is still 80-90 percent white.

I voted for him because of diversity. He actually practices diversity unlike liberals, who don’t practice diversity. Obama had this whole country thinking about skin colour. Trump doesn’t look at skin colour. He doesn’t label anyone who’s non-white a minority, just people. Skin colour is colour, not culture. His cabinet is nothing to do with skin colour: they’re right for the job.

I tend to agree with what he said about Charlottesville. If you look at any situation there’s usually three sides: yours, mine and the truth. It’s not just one side doing something. Everybody has a right to their opinion. It’s freedom of speech. If I recall correctly, one side has a permit to be there legally while the other tore a statue down illegally.

I voted for him because he was the best candidate running. I agreed with him on border protection and didn’t want someone being investigated by the FBI sitting in our president’s seat.

The Fake News is now complaining about my different types of back to back speeches. Well, their was Afghanistan (somber), the big Rally.....

I requested that Mitch M & Paul R tie the Debt Ceiling legislation into the popular V.A. Bill (which just passed) for easy approval. They didn't do it so now we have a big deal with Dems holding them up (as usual) on Debt Ceiling approval. Could have been so easy-now a mess!

The dogs are inarguably inconvenienced by these cones, which is their purpose: the cones are prescribed by veterinarians because saying things like “I’ll need you to try avoid licking these stitches for a week” or “I’m going to ask you to stop gnawing on that bacterial infection on your ass” is not going to work. The dogs do not like this, and they also may not like engaging with their peer-dogs while wearing a goofy blunderbuss that keeps them from their habitual introductory b-hole assessments and self-administered kamikaze junk ablutions. But at some point there’s no real sense in guessing. You have probably gathered that this is about Donald Trump.