The Former Trump Presidency Thread

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:28 pm

The [Secret Service] spent thousands of dollars to rent the restrooms during the president's August "working vacation" at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., according to a review of purchase orders flagged by the progressive PAC American Bridge and verified by USA TODAY.

The agency signed a contract with Imperial Restrooms to provide trailers on Aug. 3. That contract was updated a week later, bringing the total spent on the restrooms to $7,100 from Aug. 3 to Aug. 21.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:36 pm

Assuming we get through this in tact, you know what's going to suck? No matter what the next guy does wrong the answer is going to be "Trump". He is going to be Smoove like political Popehat. I can't believe president x di....TRUMP. His legacy will be an on a mon a pia or it would be if playing Trump to take a trick made a noise. It will turn "Clinton's did it" into into... Some trivial cold cough from sort of death spiral virus or another.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:36 pm

Trump tweets out a commercial in advance of the storm -- that is basically all about him. Naturally.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:47 pm

WOOOOOOOOO T R U M P TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP! If he can't do it! Someone else probably can and a lot better and without pissing over everyone in the process. Hmm need to work on that chant.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:55 pm

malchior wrote:As #HurricaneHarvey intensifies - remember to #PlanAhead.

The hell?

As that pound sign fetus grows, remember to number symbol wear a condom.
It looks like the house needs shingles, remember to save for a rainy day.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:56 pm

Octavious wrote:Lets see how Captain Dumbass handles any issues that come from the hurricane in Texas. I'm sure it will be well organized and he will take all the proper steps. Probably will mention whatever properties he has in the area and how nice they are.

From the Correlation/Causality archives - they are reporting the hurricane as the first major one to make landfall since 2005 (I'm guessing this is limited to the gulf, because Sandy, which changes my correlation thesis).

In other words, Hurricanes only hit (the gulf) when Climate Change denying administrations are in charge.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:59 pm

Ya I'm not getting why Sandy isn't counting. That storm really f'd me up for a long time. Having no house for 3 weeks was not fun. That's how long it took before we got power back. My town was one of the last in Jersey to get power back. It was AWESOME!

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:00 pm

LordMortis wrote:Assuming we get through this in tact, you know what's going to suck? No matter what the next guy does wrong the answer is going to be "Trump". He is going to be Smoove like political Popehat. I can't believe president x di....TRUMP. His legacy will be an on a mon a pia or it would be if playing Trump to take a trick made a noise. It will turn "Clinton's did it" into into... Some trivial cold cough from sort of death spiral virus or another.

I don't think Trump will ever have tact.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:24 pm

A "major" hurricane is a minimum Category 3, which is why Sandy doesn't count.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:04 pm

Wiki says that Sandy was a "post-tropical cyclone with hurricane-force winds" when it came ashore in NY, hence "Superstorm Sandy".

FWIW I hope the people of TX don't have to test our current emergency-response readiness...and if they do, I hope it's up to the job. This is not one of those times when you want to score points with a political failure.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:16 pm

YK covered the definitional issue. Sandy did so much damage because it was so big (huge storm surge area) and hit one of the most expensive areas of the country. I remember the hurricane rating was a little controversial. If it had been a Cat 1 then the hurricane deductibles would have kicked in. That would have been really bad for the homeowners affected. Consequently, the insurance companies took most of it on the chin as well as the biggest insurer of last resort in the world.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:21 pm

After announcing that transgender people are now banned from service in the military during the Friday evening news dump, President Trump is also apparently considering an end to DACA:

Trump is said to be weighing whether to let DACA gradually expire or end it immediately, but the officials said it is not yet clear which option Trump may choose.

The program "continues to be under review," Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, told reporters Friday.

Once again, children in the womb? Must protect at all costs. Already born and coming to America? F them.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:14 pm

Holy shit - he pardoned Arpaio. He's either completely lost his mind or something really big is going to drop.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:20 pm

So within the last hour, the following is going on:

1) A major hurricane has been upgraded to Cat 4, and is about to make landfall.
2) Trump issues an official order banning transgendered individuals from serving in the military.
3) Trump pardons Joe Arpaio
4) Sebasitan Gorka is fired
5) North Korea fires short range missiles in response to US training maneuvers.

The first and last were going to happen anyway. The middle three are each staggering on their own, and were just intentionally buried on Friday evening so they'd get lost under the news of a major natural disaster.

The shamelessness and brazenness of this administration is absolutely mind boggling. I'm sure the GOP are drafting statements expressing how troubled they are right now.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:28 pm

Smoove_B wrote:Holy shit - he pardoned Arpaio. He's either completely lost his mind or something really big is going to drop.

Despite the time it took and the administration's attempts to manage perceptions, this must be understood as a direct response to Charlottesville. Trump pardoned the highest-profile racist to signal his allegiance to racists.

Despicable and deplorable.

And of course Trump is also signaling his willingness to use his pardon power when Mueller takes final action.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:43 pm

#FuckTrump. We pretty much officially have a tyrant now.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:45 pm

Bye bye Gorka.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:53 pm

This is completly loony. Tbe GOP has little time left to act. Histoey won't be kind to them otherwise.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:56 pm

Holman wrote:
Smoove_B wrote:Holy shit - he pardoned Arpaio. He's either completely lost his mind or something really big is going to drop.
Despite the time it took and the administration's attempts to manage perceptions, this must be understood as a direct response to Charlottesville. Trump pardoned the highest-profile racist to signal his allegiance to racists.

Despicable and deplorable.

And of course Trump is also signaling his willingness to use his pardon power when Mueller takes final action.

Well said.

I'm more than a little worried about what the reaction to this could be.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:08 pm

Smoove_B wrote:Holy shit - he pardoned Arpaio. He's either completely lost his mind or something really big is going to drop.

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:09 pm

How is 4) staggering? That it happened? Hell, I welcome the departure of that asshole.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:11 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
Holman wrote:
Smoove_B wrote:Holy shit - he pardoned Arpaio. He's either completely lost his mind or something really big is going to drop.
Despite the time it took and the administration's attempts to manage perceptions, this must be understood as a direct response to Charlottesville. Trump pardoned the highest-profile racist to signal his allegiance to racists.

Despicable and deplorable.

And of course Trump is also signaling his willingness to use his pardon power when Mueller takes final action.
Well said.

I'm more than a little worried about what the reaction to this could be.

This is undobtedly a signal. Arpaio violated federal orders and Constitutional protections and Trump is saying it's ok since they're Latinos. Not illegals, merely brownish.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:17 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:How is 4) staggering? That it happened? Hell, I welcome the departure of that asshole.

Oh, I do too. I guess more in the sense of "this would be a news cycle all its own." Or maybe I was already staggered from the rest of the stories. Though it is pretty amazing that his given reason for leaving is that Trump didn't say "radical Islamic terrorism" at the recent rally.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:18 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:How is 4) staggering? That it happened? Hell, I welcome the departure of that asshole.

it signals that Kelly is able to assert some normality but that Trump is still out of his mind. He can't talk him out of crazy things. He is just serving aa damage control the best he can. But it isnt enough. The danger has never been greater.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:25 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote:This is undobtedly a signal. Arpaio violated federal orders and Constitutional protections and Trump is saying it's ok since they're Latinos. Not illegals, merely brownish.

Yeah, read more here:

But it would be an altogether different matter if Trump pardoned Arpaio for willfully refusing to follow the Constitution and violating the rights of people inside the U.S.

Such a pardon would reflect outright contempt for the judiciary, which convicted Arpaio for his resistance to its authority. Trump has questioned judges’ motives and decisions, but this would be a further, more radical step in his attack on the independent constitutional authority of Article III judges.

An Arpaio pardon would express presidential contempt for the Constitution. Arpaio didn’t just violate a law passed by Congress. His actions defied the Constitution itself, the bedrock of the entire system of government. For Trump to say that this violation is excusable would threaten the very structure on which is right to pardon is based.

Fundamentally, pardoning Arpaio would also undermine the rule of law itself.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:31 pm

Smoove_B wrote:Holy shit - he pardoned Arpaio. He's either completely lost his mind or something really big is going to drop.

Trump pardoned a police officer who bragged about contempt of the US Courts and ignored cases of child molesters.

A new low for America.

#notgreatagain

Hamlet3145 · Post by **Hamlet3145** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:36 pm

This might sound crazy, but I was actually hoping he would be stupid enough to do this. He just pissed off all the courts in the country.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:40 pm

Hamlet3145 wrote:This might sound crazy, but I was actually hoping he would be stupid enough to do this. He just pissed off all the courts in the country.

and he just said he doesn't give a fuck what they say. This is the beginning of the end...if nothing is done.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:46 pm

Where are those 2nd amendment people when you really need them?

Time to get rid of this clown for good, as Brother Malcolm used to say, by any means necessary.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:00 pm

A "normal" bigoted president wouldn't need to take action at all. It's not like Trump had to sign off on Arpaio either way: the courts have done their job, and there's no need for the executive to be involved. Even "normal" racists could be expected to understand inaction: the courts have acted; the courts don't understand; what can you do?

But this is different. A president who has shown himself uniquely ignorant of the law, a president who does little but angrily tweet and avidly golf, has here inserted himself into the law in the most dramatic way a president can. He has pardoned a duly judged and guilty criminal, overturning the system with the highest power a president can exercise over the courts.

In exercising this power, he chose a racist and a violator of the civil rights of other citizens.

The message is clear.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:37 pm

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... _move.html

Maybe he was just taking Slate's advice?

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:39 pm

It would be easier if you just started your posts with "What about..."

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:43 pm

Rip, not even Kellyanne could spin this one. You, sir, are no Kellyanne.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:16 pm

I have stopped telling myself "He'll never get away with this one." Sure he will. And he'll find a way to top it soon enough.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:36 pm

He already has, done. Nothing anyone can do about it.

So, moving on.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:54 pm

Strictly speaking, that's not true. Nothing anyone who's not a GOP coward can do, well there you're on to something.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:41 am

All the publicity has been focused on his racial profiling, but he did a lot just as bad or worse. He is a major birther. Prisoners in his jails were housed outside in tents in 120 degree heat and fed rotten bologna. A lot of those prisoners weren't convicted - they were just poor saps that couldn't make bail.

Arpaio is a major scumbag. Birds of a feather, and all that.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:46 am

Zaxxon wrote:Strictly speaking, that's not true. Nothing anyone who's not a GOP coward can do, well there you're on to something.

No shit. Disavow him. Tell your Congress persons to stand against him. Face the fact that you are a Nazi, a sympathizer, willfully ignorant, a citizen who would literally see his fellow citizens unjustly put in chains by the might of the executive office powered by their vote, or a coward?

Folllow Kasich's lead. Abandon the party.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:28 am

From various fake news articles analyzing the pardon one wonders what will stop The Donald from pardoning other people who may face contempt of court charges in the future. Such as, folks that won't cooperate with the Mueller investigation...?

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:31 am

This is a signal to those people. Stand by me, stay loyal, and I'll take care of you.