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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:30 pm

Kraken wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:23 pmDoes contact tracing really make much difference when the virus is endemic? It's like stomping on embers in a burning building.

Right, at some point it is indeed useless to stop spread because the virus is everywhere. However, we started out a ~50% refusal here in NJ back in July and it's only been trending worse.

And while it might not be great for stopping spread, it does help us fill in information about *how* it's being spread. The current argument now is we don't have data to prove small gatherings are responsible. We're definitely speculating (and maybe incorrectly), but without cooperation we really have no idea what's happening. Are all the people getting sick being exposed at work? Are they going to bars? Are they gathering with family? Are they out shopping? Going to churches or other religious gatherings? We're flying blind and not surprisingly then, flailing around with policy and executive orders. Without the data we don't have the ability to enact scalpel-like decisions. Instead, all we have left it the giant, unrelenting hammer.

malchior wrote:Freedumb to go to strip clubs is more important than public health in San Diego.

In Los Angeles County alone, about two people are dying every hour on average from the coronavirus.

"It's been a long time since an infectious disease was the leading cause of death for the whole country," said lead author Steven Woolf, M.D., director emeritus of VCU's Center on Society and Health. "And it's a tragic milestone we could've prevented."

By October, COVID-19 was the third-leading cause of death for people ages 45 to 84 and the second-leading cause of death for those over 85. But those numbers were an aggregate of the previous eight months.

Since November, the weekly average for daily COVID-19 deaths has tripled, from 826 to 2,430 deaths per day, writes Woolf. Heart disease and cancer, which have been the leading causes of death for decades, cause approximately 1,700 and 1,600 deaths per day, respectively.

Daehawk wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:32 pm I wonder if you are a gun carrier and they approach you if its legal to kill them because you took it as an attempt on your life?

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:46 pm

Daehawk wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:32 pm I wonder if you are a gun carrier and they approach you if its legal to kill them because you took it as an attempt on your life?

Not legal.

But officials said New Jersey’s allocation of vaccine doses have been reduced by about 20% through the end of this year, including the expected addition of Moderna doses.

The state had expected to receive more than 492,075 doses this month for both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, but that number has dropped to 392,800, Persichilli said.

“I don’t think we’ve got a satisfactory reason why,” Murphy said. “It’s nothing personal. It’s apparently every American state has received a smaller allocation.”

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:59 pm In case anyone from NJ wants to know where the COVID-19 MEGA VACCINATION TOUR will be stopping next year.

Spoiler:

The Meadowlands Complex in Secaucus, Bergen County.
Rockaway Townsquare in Morris County.
The New Jersey Convention and Exposition Center in Edison, Middlesex County.
The Moorestown Mall in Burlington County.
Rowan College in Glassboro, Gloucester County.
The Atlantic City Convention Center in Atlantic County.

But officials said New Jersey’s allocation of vaccine doses have been reduced by about 20% through the end of this year, including the expected addition of Moderna doses.

The state had expected to receive more than 492,075 doses this month for both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, but that number has dropped to 392,800, Persichilli said.

“I don’t think we’ve got a satisfactory reason why,” Murphy said. “It’s nothing personal. It’s apparently every American state has received a smaller allocation.”

malchior wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:38 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2020 2:31 pm In a perfect world (to me), they'd get drive-through vaccinations figured out. We already do it for influenza, but I don't know if it's practical for whatever they're proposing for this. However, if they can do it, I think that would speed things up considerably - particularly if you can pre-register and get a printout with a bar code (or have your phone scanned).

That is what I see in my head. For example, the Meadowlands. You have rail + car access. The rail could bring supplies and obviously the complex is "optimized" for game day traffic. This would be much lower volume so you'd figure you could stream cars through it. Same thing at a PNC or possibly the Raritan center.

Daehawk wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:21 pm What about the 15 min wait and monitor part for side effects and hospitalizations due to them? Dont want people driving off and dying or wrecking into others and killing them.

The Ontario government is poised to impose a provincewide lockdown starting Christmas Eve, sources confirmed Sunday, as the province logs more than 2,000 new cases of COVID-19 for the sixth consecutive day.

A 28-day lockdown for the southern portions of the province, south of Sudbury, Ont., will begin at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, sources confirmed.

Meanwhile, the northern parts of Ontario will be under a 14-day lockdown, sources said.

The restrictions will look similar to the shutdown in March, with only essential businesses remaining open.

Under any scenario, Ontario would see 300 people in ICU by the end of the month, sources said. At the current rate of transmission, that would mean upwards of 700 people in the ICU by the end of January, and the number of new cases would grow to 10,000 per day.

A 28-day lockdown for the southern portions of the province, south of Sudbury, Ont., will begin at 12:01 a.m. on Thursday, sources confirmed.

More than 2 million people have passed through security checkpoints at U.S. airports over the last two days, according to statistics provided by the Transportation Security Administration. This is despite official guidance to stay home for the holidays as the coronavirus pandemic rages and the nation's death toll continues to rise.

On both Friday and Saturday, about 1.07 million travelers passed through TSA checkpoints, the agency reported. That's down nearly 60% from last year, but still much higher than the typical checkpoint statistics since the pandemic began.

More than 17 million cases of the virus have been reported in the U.S., and over 317,000 people have died, according to the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center.

Have you downloaded @EricClapton and Van Morrison's Stand And Deliver? The two artists have joined forces to support the UK #musicindustry and help musicians who have been struggling financially. We must act now before it's too late.

“Stand and deliver
You let them put the fear on you
Stand and deliver
But not a word you heard was true.”

$iljanus wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:43 pm Fuck you Eric Clapton and Van Morrison sitting pretty in your country estates while people die. Just fuck off.

There’s only one Stand and Deliver song anyway.

Smoove_B wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:32 pm Also, if you had Eric Clapton and Van Morrison collaborating on an anti-mask / anti-lockdown song, come forward and collect your prize.

https://twitter.com/vanmorrison/status/ ... 0947999745

Have you downloaded @EricClapton and Van Morrison's Stand And Deliver? The two artists have joined forces to support the UK #musicindustry and help musicians who have been struggling financially. We must act now before it's too late.

“Stand and deliver
You let them put the fear on you
Stand and deliver
But not a word you heard was true.”

Daehawk wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:46 pm The State Governor is all up in arms about COVID now. Geeee I wonder why....maybe because his wife has it.

Smoove_B wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:32 pm Also, if you had Eric Clapton and Van Morrison collaborating on an anti-mask / anti-lockdown song, come forward and collect your prize.

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:13 am That's Sir Van Morrison, OBE and Eric Clapton, CBE, you peasants.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:17 pm My gf in Florida went to get tested today and they told her she would hear her results in 7 - 10 days. It’s almost like Florida doesn’t want people to get tested...