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NCAA Football 2024 season
May as well get this thing underway for this year. At the end of spring camp, where does your team sit?
With Cam Rising coming back and a new conference, Utah looks to be in a good spot to make a run for a spot in the expanded playoffs. If we can avoid the absolutely ridiculous injury bug that hit last year, I think this could be a fun one.
They yoinked out the P12 logo and replaced it with the B12 yesterday. Gotta admit, that stings a little.
With Cam Rising coming back and a new conference, Utah looks to be in a good spot to make a run for a spot in the expanded playoffs. If we can avoid the absolutely ridiculous injury bug that hit last year, I think this could be a fun one.
They yoinked out the P12 logo and replaced it with the B12 yesterday. Gotta admit, that stings a little.
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Kiffin having a bit of fun on Taylor Swift Day!
If you're an Ole Miss football fan, you know the drill by now. Fresh Taylor Swift music, like the album that dropped Thursday, means fresh Lane Kiffin content.
The Ole Miss Athletics official account on X, formerly Twitter, posted a parody back cover for Swift's album "The Tortured Poets Department." ...
...It checks most of Kiffin's usual boxes, saying goodbye to the retiring Nick Saban, highlighting the transfer portal, shouting out his dog, Juice, and throwing shade at Mississippi State.
There are a couple of fun surprises, too. Australian punter Fraser Masin got a reference. So did Lane Kiffin's launched clipboard from a 2020 win over South Carolina.
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Both Deion and Shedeur Sanders have been going after players who transferred out of the program on social media.
I cannot stand the entire Sanders clan and hope CU goes 0-12 this year.
I cannot stand the entire Sanders clan and hope CU goes 0-12 this year.
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The players know that Coach Time was just building the team as a vehicle to showcase his own kids.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:50 am Both Deion and Shedeur Sanders have been going after players who transferred out of the program on social media.
I cannot stand the entire Sanders clan and hope CU goes 0-12 this year.
The college game I grew up loving is mostly gone but what was happening last year with CU was way beyond annoying.
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I don’t think that will make it easier to get players to transfer in.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:50 am Both Deion and Shedeur Sanders have been going after players who transferred out of the program on social media.
I cannot stand the entire Sanders clan and hope CU goes 0-12 this year.
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Am I reading that subtext correctly? Coach Sanders is basically saying "screw this program I'm in charge of, as long as my son is a star, that's the only thing that matters."
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I'm becoming more and more convinced that's the only reason he is there. It would not surprise me one bit if he simply bails after his kids are done this year.LordMortis wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 12:31 pm Am I reading that subtext correctly? Coach Sanders is basically saying "screw this program I'm in charge of, as long as my son is a star, that's the only thing that matters."
I used to have a real soft spot for CU (lots of HS friends who went there, and I spent plenty of time in Boulder during my summers in Colorado), but this whole Deion thing has quashed that entirely.
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I read that article in The Athletic today. I dgaf about college sports in general but I went to CU-Boulder so the headline caught my eye. The whole thing sounds pretty fucked up.
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Out of curiosity I looked at the Buffaloes schedule for this year and it doesn’t look nearly as tough as last year, but maybe I just thought the last year of the pac was better than the Big12.
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More bowls? Hmm...
Get ready for more bowl games, not less, as college administrators continue to push for more postseason access in all sports.
That's what Bowl Season director Nick Carparelli believes is next after the College Football Playoff expands from four to 12 teams this fall -- and potentially 14 in 2026. Why? Expansion is the hot trend in all corners of college athletics, and the NCAA transformation committee has made it clear more postseason opportunities are desired in all sports.
"When I speak with head football coaches and athletic directors and conference commissioners, it's very encouraging. You know, I think it's more likely we add bowl games than subtract bowl games," Carparelli told 247Sports
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It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Shilo Sanders files for bankruptcy because he owes a $12 million judgement to a security guard he assaulted while at his previous school. A judgement that was awarded partly because Sanders simply never bothered to show up for court.
Can the Sanders Family Circus to pack up and leave town now?
Can the Sanders Family Circus to pack up and leave town now?
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How does one get a multimillion dollar verdict against a 15yo?
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I assume NIL money?
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How does a 15yo sign an enforceable contract, NIL or no?
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The incident he was sued for occurred when he was 15. He probably was 18 when he started getting the NIL money.
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IN this case, it's because his Dad (responsible) is rich.
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In regards to the initial post, TCU is crawling back out of the pit of last season. We lost a couple guys to the draft, lost one defensive nose tackle to NIL (he demanded more money after his freshman year, we gave it to him, and then he bolted for OU), and a few more to the transfer portal. I do feel, however, that we pulled in a net-positive sum of talent and numbers. I spoke with a kid on the team from two years ago and he flat-out said, "They tried to ride on the coat tails of our team last year, but they didn't have any leaders left after Max left."
We have a new defensive coordinator with a much more viable scheme, some depth at QB for the first time in a while, and some promising talent in the skill positions. O and D lines are still an unknown, but it would be hard pressed to be worse than last year. We are also excited about the new conference. Not having to deal with Texas and OU egos will be quite nice, and I'm excited to have new blood in the conference. Specifically Utah, a school we've had some great battles with in the past.
We have a new defensive coordinator with a much more viable scheme, some depth at QB for the first time in a while, and some promising talent in the skill positions. O and D lines are still an unknown, but it would be hard pressed to be worse than last year. We are also excited about the new conference. Not having to deal with Texas and OU egos will be quite nice, and I'm excited to have new blood in the conference. Specifically Utah, a school we've had some great battles with in the past.
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L-O-fucking-L
I can’t wait to play in the “Tostitos XII” conference.The Big 12 is exploring selling its naming rights to a title sponsor, with potential revenue of hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of the deal, sources told ESPN on Thursday.
The commercial sponsor would potentially take the name "Big" out of Big 12 and replace it with the sponsor's name. It could end up as one of the largest commercial deals in collegiate athletics history, not including media rights.
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The Big Dick's Conference is begging to happen!Skinypupy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:18 pm L-O-fucking-L
I can’t wait to play in the “Tostitos XII” conference.The Big 12 is exploring selling its naming rights to a title sponsor, with potential revenue of hundreds of millions of dollars over the course of the deal, sources told ESPN on Thursday.
The commercial sponsor would potentially take the name "Big" out of Big 12 and replace it with the sponsor's name. It could end up as one of the largest commercial deals in collegiate athletics history, not including media rights.
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The (for now) "Big 12" is trying to close the revenue gap with the Big 10 and SEC. While their new name will almost certainly be derided, it will also add to their coffers. Given their 2 marquis programs are now in the SEC, I think it's a smart move. One wonders if they will change the name in a way that they don't misrepresent the number of teams they have anymore. (Not that they are the only ones. Hello Big 10!)
Just more absurdity in the most absurd sport. (And still my favorite.)
Just more absurdity in the most absurd sport. (And still my favorite.)
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And if they need it, the B1G and SEC will command FAR larger deals. But boy howdy is it getting tougher to be a college sports fan as it gets professionalized for money everywhere before it implodes completely when the TV money dries up and streaming doesn't make up the difference.JCC wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:04 pm The (for now) "Big 12" is trying to close the revenue gap with the Big 10 and SEC. While their new name will almost certainly be derided, it will also add to their coffers. Given their 2 marquis programs are now in the SEC, I think it's a smart move. One wonders if they will change the name in a way that they don't misrepresent the number of teams they have anymore. (Not that they are the only ones. Hello Big 10!)
Just more absurdity in the most absurd sport. (And still my favorite.)
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The value of CFB to the TV networks is only going to get greater. Sports and news are the only reasons for "live TV" to exist. TV Shows and movies can always be watched later.
The big problem for CFB is the widening gap within the "Power 4". This could soon be a "Power 2" once either or both of the Big 10 and SEC decide to poach the valuable entities left in the Big 12 and ACC. (Mainly just a few teams from the ACC. I am not sure if any remaining Big 12 teams are really in demand.)
Notre Dame and UNC can call either the Big 10 and SEC and get an immediate invite. I am not sure if any other school could get into those conferences with 100% certainty. Of course, the grant of rights has UNC constrained until they or some other ACC team lawyer up and figure out a way to break the GoR. Obviously FSU and Clemson are already trying to sue their way out of it right now. Notre Dame is going to stay independent as long as they can. It might be forever. For now, ND is probably cautiously content. They have a way into the expanded playoff (albeit, without being eligible to be a 1-4 seed). Obviously they value their independence to the extreme. So, I don't see them moving, unless the SEC/Big10 both tell them they can't make the playoff without being in a conference. And, I have no idea why they would collude to do that when only one of them can benefit.
At some point, it won't surprise me to see a combined SEC/Big10 premier league with 4-8 (or more) teams added from other conferences. I think it's possible the Big 12 and ACC might survive as the "other Power 2". But the revenue gap between the "Power 2" and the "other Power 2" is going to keep growing.
The big problem for CFB is the widening gap within the "Power 4". This could soon be a "Power 2" once either or both of the Big 10 and SEC decide to poach the valuable entities left in the Big 12 and ACC. (Mainly just a few teams from the ACC. I am not sure if any remaining Big 12 teams are really in demand.)
Notre Dame and UNC can call either the Big 10 and SEC and get an immediate invite. I am not sure if any other school could get into those conferences with 100% certainty. Of course, the grant of rights has UNC constrained until they or some other ACC team lawyer up and figure out a way to break the GoR. Obviously FSU and Clemson are already trying to sue their way out of it right now. Notre Dame is going to stay independent as long as they can. It might be forever. For now, ND is probably cautiously content. They have a way into the expanded playoff (albeit, without being eligible to be a 1-4 seed). Obviously they value their independence to the extreme. So, I don't see them moving, unless the SEC/Big10 both tell them they can't make the playoff without being in a conference. And, I have no idea why they would collude to do that when only one of them can benefit.
At some point, it won't surprise me to see a combined SEC/Big10 premier league with 4-8 (or more) teams added from other conferences. I think it's possible the Big 12 and ACC might survive as the "other Power 2". But the revenue gap between the "Power 2" and the "other Power 2" is going to keep growing.
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Maybe. The NFL is rapidly expanding to consume everything, and College football will have issues. The CFP is already going to be going head 2 head with the NFL running games Saturdays and Sundays
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Years past I would start getting excited about he start of college football getting close. That has not happened this year.
I'm more excited about fantasy football. Maybe the NFL should fund the new college semi-pro league and just rip the band aid right off. At least there would be a set of rules in place and not the wild wild west of rules there are now in college football.
I'm more excited about fantasy football. Maybe the NFL should fund the new college semi-pro league and just rip the band aid right off. At least there would be a set of rules in place and not the wild wild west of rules there are now in college football.
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The NFL will not be able to "consume" college football. And they would be fools to try. And I am sure they are way too smart to even want to do this. Why would they want to meddle with a league that provides almost all of their future talent, many of which come in as huge stars, before they have made a nickel from the NFL? The one weekend of the CFP "battling" with the NFL will probably be eliminated in future seasons - especially if the CFB games rate significantly worse - which is highly possible.
The NFL deciding they need to consume (which they can't do) or weaken/destroy CFB (by drafting high school players) would be an absolutely amazingly dumb decision that would HURT the NFL's bottom line. I am sure they aren't thrilled with a few CFB games playing the same day they are. But, destroying their 100% free minor league that makes rookies well known if not outright stars when they join the NFL would be one of the worst decisions they could ever make.
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Regardless of whether it's smart, the NFL is doing it - per Wilner:
The NFL is fine with players sitting out bowl games, the CFP may end up with that as well.By starting the playoff earlier and ending later, college football has trespassed on NFL terrain, and the folks on Park Avenue aren’t happy.
That became clear last month, when the NFL released its schedule for the 2024 regular season and slotted two major matchups for Saturday, Dec. 21 as a counter-programming sledgehammer.
The Chiefs-Texans showdown is scheduled for 10 a.m. (Pacific) on NBC, opposite the first game of the CFP’s opening-round tripleheader.
Then comes the Steelers-Ravens collision on Fox, at the same time as the second playoff game of the day.
Those two CFP games are on TNT and will generate perfectly acceptable ratings. But the casual fans required for blowout viewership could prove elusive.
The back end of the CFP schedule avoids direct conflict with the NFL, but there’s an eight-day break before the semifinals (on Thursday and Friday) and a 10-day gap until the championship (on Monday).
There’s only so much oxygen in the media ecosystem, and the NFL undoubtedly will consume all but a fraction.
It’s bad enough for the CFP that the final weekend of the NFL regular season falls between the quarterfinals and semifinals.
Even worse: The entire NFL wild card and divisional playoff rounds unfold between the semifinals and the championship game.
How many fans will re-engage with college football on the evening of Monday, Jan. 20?
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I'm skeptical that players will sit out of CFP games. However, I do agree it's stupid for the CFP to encroach on NFL game weekends where they play on Saturday. CFB needs to start the season a week earlier. (ie. make Week 0, week 1) and avoid this in the future. They also are going to need to tell Army/Navy, "Sorry you don't get your weekend to yourselves anymore." Particularly now that they are about to be in the same conference. It would make the playoff schedule even easier if they got rid of conference title games, but that will likely never happen ($$).
It is also likely that before long CFB players will become employees of the school. I doubt opting out is going to be happening nearly as much when that happens.
It is also likely that before long CFB players will become employees of the school. I doubt opting out is going to be happening nearly as much when that happens.
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B1G payouts look like they may be higher than initially estimated...
Washington and Oregon are entering the Big Ten as half-share members in the media rights bucket, with each school expected to receive roughly $30 million from the conference in 2024-25. (The half-share existence lasts through the remainder of the decade.)
That indicates a full share of media rights next year, through deals with Fox, CBS and NBC, will be worth about $60 million.
Now, let’s apply UW’s math to everyone else.
The Huskies expect $42 million from the conference, based on the presentation to the regents.
If we add the half share of media rights revenue the Huskies will not collect ($30 million) to their total revenue figure ($42 million), it suggests the schools receiving full shares — including USC and UCLA — will collect checks worth about $72 million from the conference.
That represents a 20 percent increase over the most recent distribution figure available.
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Sigh...
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I haven’t got used to watching MLB teams with commercial ad patches on their jerseys, and that are small. I can only imagine how ugly college jerseys will get.
So I heard a story tonight about how Oregon has an unlimited NIL budget because Knight wants to win a championship before he dies.
So I heard a story tonight about how Oregon has an unlimited NIL budget because Knight wants to win a championship before he dies.
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Let the realignment carousel begin again!
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Georgia is really having issues with NIL. they need to teach their kids how to drive!
Alternatively, they want to rename the Fulmer Cup to the Kirby Kup!Georgia's Smael Mondon, Bo Hughley arrested on reckless driving charges in latest traffic-related incidents
Twenty people associated with Georgia's program have been arrested since the start of 2023
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It's going to ruin the experience of watching the Scooters Coffee Frisco Bowl and the Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl.Scuzz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:28 am I haven’t got used to watching MLB teams with commercial ad patches on their jerseys, and that are small. I can only imagine how ugly college jerseys will get.
So I heard a story tonight about how Oregon has an unlimited NIL budget because Knight wants to win a championship before he dies.
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Things getting worse for college athletes... Georgia NIL Collective fining players
the Georgia coach did discuss punishment. According to Smart, players involved in off-field incidents like traffic arrests are subject to fines from the program's NIL collective.
"Our Classic City Collective for over a year has been substantially fining guys for those things," Smart told Dawgs247. "That's not something that's new. That's something that has been going on that's outside of my jurisdiction and they decided to do and implement and have done to a considerable amount. We're searching and trying to find the best ways."
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I'm not sure I have a big problem with that, assuming it's spelled out in the NIL agreements they're signing. There's a caveat in the article about employment status that is interesting from a technical perspective, but I don't think it's fundamentally unfair to the players. If an athlete agrees to an NIL contract and that contract has a mechanism for fining them for certain actions, it seems like a pretty straightforward matter. It's not like they're being fined based on performance on the field.
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Yet.ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:34 pm I'm not sure I have a big problem with that, assuming it's spelled out in the NIL agreements they're signing. There's a caveat in the article about employment status that is interesting from a technical perspective, but I don't think it's fundamentally unfair to the players. If an athlete agrees to an NIL contract and that contract has a mechanism for fining them for certain actions, it seems like a pretty straightforward matter. It's not like they're being fined based on performance on the field.
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Wake me up when there's a realistic probability of that happening, given that it doesn't happen in pro sports.
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