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Are you better off now than you were four years ago?

Hell yeah
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Hell nah
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16%
Same old, same old
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25%
 
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My radio said that when asked if we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, 52% of us said hell nah. That's not good for the home team. Me, I'm much better off. The economy is doing great by the numbers and I'm feeling it, as I daresay are most of us here. But the 52% of us who must not own homes or retirement accounts are itching for change.
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Other than stress from the upcoming election I'm doing pretty good.
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I assume this is strictly a financial metric? I have less debt and my wages have risen a little and my 401K has risen a lot. I'd say marginally better off.
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Alefroth wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:54 am I assume this is strictly a financial metric? I have less debt and my wages have risen a little and my 401K has risen a lot. I'd say marginally better off.
Generally when I have seen the question asked, the metric to be used is left unspecified.

I chose better off even though I have a kid in college now which means I am definitely not better off financially. :D
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Absolutely not but that has nothing little to do with the efforts of this administration. I quit working right around a time of record inflation and wage accompanying wage gain. I got hit by a car and will never fully heal. I've lived in isolation through COVID and still haven't re-integrated which has taken its toll and now there I haven an anxiety against going out. My neighborhood continues to trend toward the stuff of a contradictory sense of self centered impoverished arrogance.

That said, my stress (aside from still dealing with insurance companies and lawyers from the accident) is still lower than it would be otherwise and I still don't have to go back to work, nor do I feel a sense of impending doom that I should go back to work. So being worse off isn't nearly as bad as all that.
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Financially? I'm the same. My income only changes based on the cost of living, so I'm permanently in neutral. Overall? Am I better off than in 2020 at the height of COVID? Uh, yeah.
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Kraken wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:49 am My radio said that when asked if we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, 52% of us said hell nah. That's not good for the home team. Me, I'm much better off. The economy is doing great by the numbers and I'm feeling it, as I daresay are most of us here. But the 52% of us who must not own homes or retirement accounts are itching for change.
This is an interesting poll, Kraken. Thanks for doing this. I think it may be enlightening in terms of why OO has the strong political leanings it does.
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We’re better off and it’s not even close. Sure, some things were better in the pre-Covid days. But overall my family is in a much better spot.
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From a financial standpoint, without a doubt.

My last three years have been the best of my sales career. I have made enough to pay off every single debt I have (house, cars, CC, etc) and am progressing right on pace for a (hopefully) early retirement. Doubt it could have possibly gone much better, tbh.

But by that metric, conventional wisdom says I should be a Trump supporter so I get more tax cuts, right?
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This has been probably the biggest gain over a four year span since I left college.
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stessier wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:45 am
Alefroth wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:54 am I assume this is strictly a financial metric? I have less debt and my wages have risen a little and my 401K has risen a lot. I'd say marginally better off.
Generally when I have seen the question asked, the metric to be used is left unspecified.

I chose better off even though I have a kid in college now which means I am definitely not better off financially. :D
Yes, I left the definition open on purpose.
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Kraken wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:49 am My radio said that when asked if we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, 52% of us said hell nah. That's not good for the home team. Me, I'm much better off. The economy is doing great by the numbers and I'm feeling it, as I daresay are most of us here. But the 52% of us who must not own homes or retirement accounts are itching for change.
I don't believe all of that 52% is being truthful.
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Heck no. I have 4 fewer years to live than I did 4 years ago.
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Absolutely.

Financially, I've changed from adjuncting two parallel part-time jobs to a full-time career drawing on all my education and doubling my salary.

Also, I can go outside and mingle with the public without fearing for my life from a virus that my government at the time tried to downplay and deflect. Vaccines and awareness have finally made it safer.

National security, crime, employment, the economy, and the environmental crisis have all received attention in the right directions.

Most of all, I've benefited from decent and solid people being in charge of the executive branch, as opposed to a venal malignant narcissist and his absurd and ideologically repugnant cronies.

Whatever happened to that guy?
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Most definitely better off. I am making 50% more money. Paid off all my debts except my morgage and my retirement is looking really good. My morgage is at 3.5% APR so I am in no hurry but did pay in more to reduce the principle so it should be paid off by the time I retire when I turn 67. I am in no hurry to retire because my income is only going to increase exponentially since there are so few of me to go around as the years go by.
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Kraken wrote:My radio said that when asked if we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, 52% of us said hell nah. That's not good for the home team. Me, I'm much better off. The economy is doing great by the numbers and I'm feeling it, as I daresay are most of us here. But the 52% of us who must not own homes or retirement accounts are itching for change.
Four years ago was October 2020. My wife had COVID and was locked in another part of the house for two weeks. NJ had been ravaged for months and everything was still very disjointed in terms of being able to be out in the world.

Even ignoring all that, yes, me and mine are doing quite a bit better economically.
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If we're getting micro-personal, my father died on October 16, 2020. Pancreatic cancer.

I certainly can't say I felt better four years ago than I do today.
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I was better off when Clinton was in there.
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Kraken wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:49 am My radio said that when asked if we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, 52% of us said hell nah. That's not good for the home team. Me, I'm much better off. The economy is doing great by the numbers and I'm feeling it, as I daresay are most of us here. But the 52% of us who must not own homes or retirement accounts are itching for change.
I mean, in 1934 when Germans were asked whether they were better off now than when they were 4 years ago who could have known that the agent for change would be so Nazi like? Now we have the benefit of hindsight, so of the two agents of change I can clearly see which one is more Nazi-like. So really the question should be - do you think being more Nazi like would make things better or not?
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raydude wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:14 pm
Kraken wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:49 am My radio said that when asked if we're better off now than we were 4 years ago, 52% of us said hell nah. That's not good for the home team. Me, I'm much better off. The economy is doing great by the numbers and I'm feeling it, as I daresay are most of us here. But the 52% of us who must not own homes or retirement accounts are itching for change.
I mean, in 1934 when Germans were asked whether they were better off now than when they were 4 years ago who could have known that the agent for change would be so Nazi like? Now we have the benefit of hindsight, so of the two agents of change I can clearly see which one is more Nazi-like. So really the question should be - do you think being more Nazi like would make things better or not?
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I am not better off. But i am voting for the orange goon. Sadly my wife took her own life some time ago. It’s why I have so little patience for the maga insanity life is too short.
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waitingtoconnect wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:01 am But i am voting for the orange goon. ... It’s why I have so little patience for the maga insanity life is too short.
These sentences don't make sense together?

I'm better off but I'm not sure I'd say I'm all the way to hell yeah! Some of that is personality but retiring and moving in the middle of the period has been a little scary due to inflation and the hit of buying a more expensive house. The flip side is that our retirement accounts look good.
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I'm pretty certain that he intended to type "...i am not voting for..."
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Madmarcus wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:36 am
waitingtoconnect wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:01 am But i am voting for the orange goon. ... It’s why I have so little patience for the maga insanity life is too short.
These sentences don't make sense together?

I'm better off but I'm not sure I'd say I'm all the way to hell yeah! Some of that is personality but retiring and moving in the middle of the period has been a little scary due to inflation and the hit of buying a more expensive house. The flip side is that our retirement accounts look good.
Autocorrect for the win. I’m not voting for the orange goon.
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