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LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:39 pm
Polymarket live:
Donald Trump 63.7%
Kamala Harris 36.4%
....
Jim Justice (R) projected to win WV per AP.
Isn't Polymarket completely compromised by rich right-wingers gaming the system?
Sure. Not really gaming it so much as making bad bets, unless you believe that the polymarket line can change the outcome. I still see it as 50/50 so Harris at 36.4% seems like an opportunity.
" Hey OP, listen to my advice alright." -Tha General "No scientific discovery is named after its original discoverer." -Stigler's Law of Eponymy, discovered by Robert K. Merton MYT
My prediction Trump to win electoral college and all seven swing states plus New Mexico and New Hampshire. Harris to win popular vote.
Republicans will narrowly win the house and senate and then expand the Supreme Court entrenching their majority further with new loyal members like Haba and Cannon. They have to do it because otherwise the democrats would do it and we can’t have that.
It’s as a good a guess as any. But given my own personal tragedies and Trump why not stay with the worst timeline…
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Holman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:40 pm
Isn't Polymarket completely compromised by rich right-wingers gaming the system?
Sure. Not really gaming it so much as making bad bets, unless you believe that the polymarket line can change the outcome. I still see it as 50/50 so Harris at 36.4% seems like an opportunity.
I'm a little confused. Are you talking about making money from the betting markets?
If so, it seems like tonight is a time to sequester that in its own thread while others are looking for actual voting results.
That's a good site. I like it a lot better than MSNBC.
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Except now it's showing Trump winning now. It's really going to come down to Wisconsin and well obviously PA. So the polls showing a coin flip really weren't off. I need to stop watching.
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Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:45 pm
Except now it's showing Trump winning now. It's really going to come down to Wisconsin and well obviously PA. So the polls showing a coin flip really weren't off. I need to stop watching.
It's measuring currently reported results in real time, not making predictions.
Close states like Georgia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina have to wait a while for the big urban centers to report their big numbers.
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Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:45 pm
Except now it's showing Trump winning now. It's really going to come down to Wisconsin and well obviously PA. So the polls showing a coin flip really weren't off. I need to stop watching.
I don't think there's a chance we know who won tonight. Too many states that will need to count well into the night. Plus we just fell back so for most of us old timers it's already close to bedtime.
That sound of the spoon scraping over the can ribbing as you corral the last ravioli or two is the signal that a great treat is coming. It's the washboard solo in God's own
bluegrass band of comfort food. - LawBeefaroni
Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:45 pm
Except now it's showing Trump winning now. It's really going to come down to Wisconsin and well obviously PA. So the polls showing a coin flip really weren't off. I need to stop watching.
It's measuring currently reported results in real time, not making predictions.
Close states like Georgia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina have to wait a while for the big urban centers to report their big numbers.
Ah I thought it was using some kind of logic.
Capitalism tries for a delicate balance: It attempts to work things out so that everyone gets just enough stuff to keep them from getting violent and trying to take other people’s stuff.
Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:45 pm
Except now it's showing Trump winning now. It's really going to come down to Wisconsin and well obviously PA. So the polls showing a coin flip really weren't off. I need to stop watching.
It's measuring currently reported results in real time, not making predictions.
Close states like Georgia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina have to wait a while for the big urban centers to report their big numbers.
Ah I thought it was using some kind of logic.
Same. That makes me feel marginally better.
Marginally.
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Whatever happens, there are far too many people who are totally ok with electing a mentally unstable fascist felon to the most important office in the country. I need more rum.
Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:45 pm
Except now it's showing Trump winning now. It's really going to come down to Wisconsin and well obviously PA. So the polls showing a coin flip really weren't off. I need to stop watching.
It's measuring currently reported results in real time, not making predictions.
It's making predictions based on the current results. State by state and nationally.
gbasden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:07 pm
Whatever happens, there are far too many people who are totally ok with electing a mentally unstable fascist felon to the most important office in the country. I need more rum.
Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:45 pm
Except now it's showing Trump winning now. It's really going to come down to Wisconsin and well obviously PA. So the polls showing a coin flip really weren't off. I need to stop watching.
It's measuring currently reported results in real time, not making predictions.
It's making predictions based on the current results. State by state and nationally.
So, I shouldn't read into it saying Likely To Win for Trump?
I'm getting Hillary 2016 vibes right about now. Harris is underperforming the the rust belt areas compared to 2020 and Trump is picking up a few tenths here and there.
Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:39 pm
So, I shouldn't read into it saying Likely To Win for Trump?
If the voting stopped before any of those western states were counted and the current tally trends were holding, then yes, he would be likely to win. But the puzzle pieces are still coming together.
We'll know more at midnight EST and by 8am tomorrow morning, even more.
It's very, very difficult to not get overwhelmed by what's happening right now but that model is a snapshot of current data. It's missing a big chunk.
What value does the phrase 'likely to _____' if it doesn't imply that it's considering the future the best it can. Otherwise the phrase 'if we stopped now ____' would be used.
Republican Brandon Gill won election to a U.S. House seat representing Texas on Tuesday, holding the seat for the GOP. The former Wall Street executive won a district that stretches from the suburbs north of Dallas to the Oklahoma border. The seat opened up with Rep. Michael Burgess’ retirement. Gill is the son-in-law of right-wing commentator Dinesh D’Souza and worked on producing and marketing D’Souza’s “2,000 Mules,” a widely debunked film that falsely claimed the 2020 election was stolen. Gill has launched a news site called DC Enquirer that supports Donald Trump and says he will be Trump’s biggest congressional advocate. The Associated Press declared Gill the winner at 8:25 p.m. EST.
That sound of the spoon scraping over the can ribbing as you corral the last ravioli or two is the signal that a great treat is coming. It's the washboard solo in God's own
bluegrass band of comfort food. - LawBeefaroni
Looks like the big surprise is Trump is likely to take VA, which no one say coming. That and WI give him the win. Harris was unable to break through in any read leaning states like NC, GA or AZ to offset that. Losing VA was totally unexpected.
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Too many '35% reporting' still to really say anything. The only way we were going to find out tonight was if it was a landslide one way or the other. I'm going to watch a show and go to bed, and check back tomorrow when it's slightly less guesswork.