WHAT IS THE BEST PC STRATEGY/SIMULATION EVER???

sirantonycarwtright · Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:22 am

Hello everyone,
Going to buy a new pc game within the week sometime, but i want to know what the best strategy/sim is, do i have it already? etc.. So i would like your help......

Please reply stating your favorite strat/sim pc game, and take a look at the poll!

Thanks, much appreciated,
Antony

warning · Post by **warning** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:34 am

Wow Rome Total War, Call of Duty and Age of Empires II all in one poll?

They all play so differently. I liked Call of Duty myself but it's not a strategy game and not really a simulation either.

Arcanis · Post by **Arcanis** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:49 am

well i have a write in vote. While i love Rome and it absolutely stunning i still have to say that the ones that still holds a place in my heart, due to mechanics and fun is still Warcraft II and Starcraft

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:04 pm

That is a tough selection to choose from without knowing more of exactly what you're looking for.

For a general strategy/simulation game with a strong historical basis, Rome Total War.

For a classic real time strategy game with a historical theme, Age of Empires 2.

For a large scale, micromanagement type of game, Civ III.

Call of Duty is a completely different type of game - regardless of how they advertise it as being like a simulation, it is an first person shooter, a pure action 'cinematic' game.

All in all, I'd call Rome Total War the best of the set, but they're really different types of games.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:21 pm

The only simulation on that list is Stronghold (and not a terribly authentic one at that). The best "strategy/simulation" games would all be wargames, and you have none of those listed.

apezilla · Post by **apezilla** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:34 pm

Eduardo X · Post by **Eduardo X** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:23 pm

Its really hard to chose between Civ 3 and R:TW, as they're pretty different games, but I chose R:TW because its newer. Civ 4 will be out soon. Buy that also.

SuperHiro · Post by **SuperHiro** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:47 pm

Rome: Total War seems to have whimpered away from it's once VERY powerful status on the forums. What happened? The only other game who's GGFE died so sadly was Soldiers.

Dirt · Post by **Dirt** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:53 pm

Foul.

You don't have Majesty as an option.

Eduardo X · Post by **Eduardo X** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:56 pm

SuperHiro wrote:Rome: Total War seems to have whimpered away from it's once VERY powerful status on the forums. What happened? The only other game who's GGFE died so sadly was Soldiers.

What?
Check out this poll: R:TW 8 Civ 3 4. That is a huge statement in and of itself.

SuperHiro · Post by **SuperHiro** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:02 pm

I just figured there'd be more threads about it.

raydude · Post by **raydude** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:02 pm

This poll is worthless unless someone defines what is meant by simulation. How can Starcraft be a simulation of anything?

Its one thing to construct a poll of the best strategy or simulation but when I see "strategy/simulation" I take it that the poster wants the best game that has strong strategy elements and strongly simulates the period which is in the game.

This eliminates most fantasy and sci-fi genres entirely. I'm with Jeff V though in that none of the games listed have any strong simulation elements.

dfs · Post by **dfs** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:45 pm

The best "strategy/simulation" games would all be wargames, and you have none of those listed.

As long as the definition of wargame is broad enough to include EU, I'm good with that.

JonathanStrange · Post by **JonathanStrange** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 3:27 pm

warning wrote:Wow Rome Total War, Call of Duty and Age of Empires II all in one poll?

They all play so differently. I liked Call of Duty myself but it's not a strategy game and not really a simulation either.

I agree. The style of play in many of the games don't resemble each other enough for me to say that this is a better strategy game than that - they have different objectives.

Since you listed more than one Total War game as a candidate, can I assume you've tried one and liked it? If so, I personally have enjoyed Rome: Total War more than any of the others so I'd recommend that.

However, some of the others are bargain priced now: Civ 3, MTW, etc. so you could gamble a bit less $.

But, if you're looking for a strategy game recommendation in general, I might add to keep in mind Kohan 2 and Ground Control 2 also.

Kobra · Post by **Kobra** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:02 pm

You don't have the two on the list that i'd pick..

Combat Mission Afrika Korps
Cossacks 2

Hands down, the best in my view. Imperial Glory with a patch or two would be added to that list - we'll see.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:13 pm

SuperHiro wrote:Rome: Total War seems to have whimpered away from it's once VERY powerful status on the forums. What happened? The only other game who's GGFE died so sadly was Soldiers.

Rome came out in Sept, what the heck are you talking about?! Name the number of games that have active threads 8 to 9 months after release.

SuperHiro · Post by **SuperHiro** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:37 pm

Usually I consider a good GGFE to have a nice long buzz. And at least a few mentions now and then in other threads.

I'm not saying I want 80% of 1st page threads to involve it... but I haven't even seen so much as an AAR. I mean shit, Dawn of War gets more mentions.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:00 pm

SuperHiro wrote:Usually I consider a good GGFE to have a nice long buzz. And at least a few mentions now and then in other threads.

I'm not saying I want 80% of 1st page threads to involve it... but I haven't even seen so much as an AAR. I mean shit, Dawn of War gets more mentions.

No, not really. I just went and checked the 3 most recent pages of "PC Games by Title". There are three RTW threads and one DoW thread.

Going further, a search in all forums on "RTW" reveals 30 threads since Jan 1, while a search on "DoW" reveals only 15 threads for the same time period.

Going even further, a search in "PC Gaming by Title" on "Rome" reveals 37 threads since Jan 1, while a search on "Dawn" reveals only 6 threads for the same time period.

Sorry, data trumps anecdotes every time

Consider yourself double "de-funked"

Crux · Post by **Crux** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:32 pm

I voted Rome: Total War.

SuperHiro · Post by **SuperHiro** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:26 am

Grifman wrote:
SuperHiro wrote:Usually I consider a good GGFE to have a nice long buzz. And at least a few mentions now and then in other threads.

I'm not saying I want 80% of 1st page threads to involve it... but I haven't even seen so much as an AAR. I mean shit, Dawn of War gets more mentions.
No, not really. I just went and checked the 3 most recent pages of "PC Games by Title". There are three RTW threads and one DoW thread.

Going further, a search in all forums on "RTW" reveals 30 threads since Jan 1, while a search on "DoW" reveals only 15 threads for the same time period.

Going even further, a search in "PC Gaming by Title" on "Rome" reveals 37 threads since Jan 1, while a search on "Dawn" reveals only 6 threads for the same time period.

Sorry, data trumps anecdotes every time

Consider yourself double "de-funked"

The fact that someone caught the reference makes the ownage all the more sweeter.

*bows*

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:03 am

I don't understand why Star General wasn't one of the choices.

tals · Post by **tals** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:43 am

My favourite (I think everyone knows in this forum

) is hands down Soldiers. Was playing the coop with Turtle last night, even though I have done the particular mission a number of times (Theft) which involves stealing a train from the Germans with a rocket tank it still had some great moments.

To get the best out of it though MP Coop or PVP has to be done. It is also played very much controlling individual chracters in game (although you can be managing a number) and so is different from your list above.

Tals

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