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EBgames execs cash out

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Seems like these mergers are the best for the head honchos who own the stock. :)
Jeff Griffiths, EB Games' CEO, exercised options on 173,275 shares, selling them for a total of $10.9 million; John Panichello, the company's COO, exercised options on 149,571 shares, securing $9.4 million in the trades; and CFO James Smith exercised options on 43,634 shares, selling them for approximately $2.8 million.

Jonathan Moreland, director of research at InsiderInsights.com, told Barron's, "While it's not uncommon to see insiders selling shares when a stock has done well, I never like seeing insiders unwilling to hold shares long in the open market. I see it as a bit of a red flag."
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06/17 ... 27732.html
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Seems like these mergers are the best for the head honchos who own the stock.
This statement is incredibly true. :)

However the quoted part in your post above is at best misleading, and at worst disingenuous (and by the way, I'm blaming InsiderInsights not you!). Lemme explain ... no, there is no time to explain, lemme sum up:

1. Top execs have TONS of stock and options. They very well may have 70% or more of their net worth tied up in the stock.

2. Yes, it shows "faith in the company" to hold stock.

3. However, it shows "stupidity" to tie most of your assets up in one thin (see: People who put 100% of their pension money in Enron stock).

4. These guys are selling OPTIONS. Short version for people who haven't dealt in this: an option gives you the right to buy the stock for a certian price. You don't actually put out ANY cash for the option, the company gives it to you. For instance, "you can buy 20,000 shares at 15. This expires in 2008." Suppose the stock goes to 50. I can then do what's called a "same day sale" of the options by paying the $15 per share, and then turning around and selling that share for $50, netting $35 per share. 35 x 20,000 = 700K, minus taxes... nets me around 400K. I put out ZERO cash and end up with 400K in the bank. Nice, eh? People get options all the time (nowadays it's typically execs, tho in the internet boom of 2000 lots of people.. including me... got em from their companies). The downside to options is that if the stock goes down to say... $10.. your $15 options are "under water" which is a synonym for "worthless." However, you STILL didn't pay any cash for em, so you have really lost nothing... and if the stock goes up, well, you make a big wad of cash. Changes to accounting practices have put a big slowdown on this practice, I believe.

5. Executives typically have a usual plan of selling stock options on a regular basis. This is fron Thomson Investor, regarding Griffiths's sales:

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GRIFFITHS JEFFREY W 	(20) 	03/28/05  	44.3168  	O
GRIFFITHS JEFFREY W 	(13) 	01/03/05 	42.5478 	O
GRIFFITHS JEFFREY W 	(27) 	01/03/05 	42.5478 	O
Basically he exercised 20,000 options on 3/28, and 40,000 options on 1/03. This indicates a regular selling plan. Most financial advisors advise their rich clients to do this... regularly sell your options, and move the cash into more diversified investments. It's DUMB to keep holding that stock, he doesn't need to hold it to get rich... the frickin man is ALREADY rich. He needs to think more about preservation of capital. That's why he sells and reinvests it in other stuff. Oh, and execs like this can only sell at certain times of the year, probably once a quarter. So they can't try to time it and say "hm, I think the stock is going down next week, better sell it now" - no, they typically can ony sell 4 times a year, so they typically DO SELL then - end of March, June, Sept, and Dec (that'd be my guess from the dates above).

5. The stock has gone up 140% over the past year. This is a strong incentive to turn those options into DeLoreans, Multi-million manisions, and the like. Or maybe he got a new mistress. Or two. At any rate, there are plenty of reasons execs sell big wads of stock. And the reason is almost never "wow, I think this stock is gonna tank so I better dump it." (if that's the reason, then he'll be in jail in 6 months, given the SEC of today).

6. People complain when execs sell the stock when it's gone way up. Do they ever mention how the execs have sold it in the past at lower prices? I mean, the guy sold thousands of shares at 44 (see the above listings). I mean, it's 60 now, so he was dumb for selling back then right? ... Not if it's a regular plan of diversifying, no (and I am willing to bet someone back then posted something saying "we don't like seeing the executives selling stock when it's gone way up" because back then I bet 45 was the high for the stock).

7. The original quote: "I never like seeing insiders unwilling to hold shares long in the open market." - what a moron. He SOLD OPTIONS. THEY WERE NEVER SHARES. HE FLIPPED THE OPTIONS AND STILL HOLDS 23 THOUSAND SHARES OF STOCK (and probably thousands, if not hundreds of thousands more options). It's statements like that guy's that make most of those sites seem like they're run by crackpots, or people who don't understand two things about corporate finance.

So the executive summary is:

- stock has gone up a lot
- the execs have cashed out lots of options
- whee, they're rich
- InsiderInsight is run by morons

whew, I feel better now.
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Charlatan wrote: So the executive summary is:

- stock has gone up a lot
- the execs have cashed out lots of options
- whee, they're rich
- InsiderInsight is run by morons

whew, I feel better now.
Don't forget your other point (which I believe is just as important):

-the execs still hold thousands of stocks in the company.
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Post by craterus »

great summary Char - I grow weary of the press pounding the rock when execs sell (when its appropriate)...

I am all for the press making a stink - when there is suspicious behavior or questionable/misleading press releases before a major dumping of shares...
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The options do have to get turned into shares as you sell them, because you generally can't transfer employee stock options. You can trade other kinds of options. It's actually fairly important, since it can be a pain to do a cashless exercise for a sparsely traded stock.
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Char for the pwn.

As I read it i struggled for a way to describe what the execs are doing (perfectly normal and very crucial to protecting your assets). Charl did a great job articulating it. Execs take a tremendous risk when taking over a company and running it. Most of their compensation is tied to stock options. The theory is that if the company does well and the stock appreciates the executive team is largely responsible for the turn around. Thus a reward tied to that progress is a great incentive to get them to work for you. All the stockholders are richer due to them so that is why they agree to such a system.
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Actually Charlatan most companies are not giving options anymore in favor of "restricted stock" and straight bonuses because of all the FTC troubles of late.
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Charlatan wrote:
Seems like these mergers are the best for the head honchos who own the stock.
This statement is incredibly true. :)

However the quoted part in your post above is at best misleading, and at worst disingenuous (and by the way, I'm blaming InsiderInsights not you!). Lemme explain ... no, there is no time to explain, lemme sum up:

1. Top execs have TONS of stock and options. They very well may have 70% or more of their net worth tied up in the stock.

2. Yes, it shows "faith in the company" to hold stock.

3. However, it shows "stupidity" to tie most of your assets up in one thin (see: People who put 100% of their pension money in Enron stock).

4. These guys are selling OPTIONS. Short version for people who haven't dealt in this: an option gives you the right to buy the stock for a certian price. You don't actually put out ANY cash for the option, the company gives it to you. For instance, "you can buy 20,000 shares at 15. This expires in 2008." Suppose the stock goes to 50. I can then do what's called a "same day sale" of the options by paying the $15 per share, and then turning around and selling that share for $50, netting $35 per share. 35 x 20,000 = 700K, minus taxes... nets me around 400K. I put out ZERO cash and end up with 400K in the bank. Nice, eh? People get options all the time (nowadays it's typically execs, tho in the internet boom of 2000 lots of people.. including me... got em from their companies). The downside to options is that if the stock goes down to say... $10.. your $15 options are "under water" which is a synonym for "worthless." However, you STILL didn't pay any cash for em, so you have really lost nothing... and if the stock goes up, well, you make a big wad of cash. Changes to accounting practices have put a big slowdown on this practice, I believe.

5. Executives typically have a usual plan of selling stock options on a regular basis. This is fron Thomson Investor, regarding Griffiths's sales:

Code: Select all

GRIFFITHS JEFFREY W 	(20) 	03/28/05  	44.3168  	O
GRIFFITHS JEFFREY W 	(13) 	01/03/05 	42.5478 	O
GRIFFITHS JEFFREY W 	(27) 	01/03/05 	42.5478 	O
Basically he exercised 20,000 options on 3/28, and 40,000 options on 1/03. This indicates a regular selling plan. Most financial advisors advise their rich clients to do this... regularly sell your options, and move the cash into more diversified investments. It's DUMB to keep holding that stock, he doesn't need to hold it to get rich... the frickin man is ALREADY rich. He needs to think more about preservation of capital. That's why he sells and reinvests it in other stuff. Oh, and execs like this can only sell at certain times of the year, probably once a quarter. So they can't try to time it and say "hm, I think the stock is going down next week, better sell it now" - no, they typically can ony sell 4 times a year, so they typically DO SELL then - end of March, June, Sept, and Dec (that'd be my guess from the dates above).

5. The stock has gone up 140% over the past year. This is a strong incentive to turn those options into DeLoreans, Multi-million manisions, and the like. Or maybe he got a new mistress. Or two. At any rate, there are plenty of reasons execs sell big wads of stock. And the reason is almost never "wow, I think this stock is gonna tank so I better dump it." (if that's the reason, then he'll be in jail in 6 months, given the SEC of today).

6. People complain when execs sell the stock when it's gone way up. Do they ever mention how the execs have sold it in the past at lower prices? I mean, the guy sold thousands of shares at 44 (see the above listings). I mean, it's 60 now, so he was dumb for selling back then right? ... Not if it's a regular plan of diversifying, no (and I am willing to bet someone back then posted something saying "we don't like seeing the executives selling stock when it's gone way up" because back then I bet 45 was the high for the stock).

7. The original quote: "I never like seeing insiders unwilling to hold shares long in the open market." - what a moron. He SOLD OPTIONS. THEY WERE NEVER SHARES. HE FLIPPED THE OPTIONS AND STILL HOLDS 23 THOUSAND SHARES OF STOCK (and probably thousands, if not hundreds of thousands more options). It's statements like that guy's that make most of those sites seem like they're run by crackpots, or people who don't understand two things about corporate finance.

So the executive summary is:

- stock has gone up a lot
- the execs have cashed out lots of options
- whee, they're rich
- InsiderInsight is run by morons

whew, I feel better now.
This can be looked at in many ways. But we will never really know.

The head honchos could have been hording those options until the merger was announced. Also, they could have bought those options instead of selling them.... if they had faith in their stock. It just doesn't look very good at all when multiple honchos of a company sell off a ton of stock. At the very least, it looks tacky. Just my 2 cents.
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They have been selling off a ton of stock for some time now. In fact check out any publicly traded company. You can see who in management is selling shares of stock. You will also see that it is quite common for those with a huge portion of their wealth tied up in the company to sell off shares. There are tax reasons as well as standard diversification reasons. I remember watching HP stock as a teenager, it was not uncommon to see Bill Hewlitt and Dave Packard (and their children) to sell huge blocks of stock. It didn't mean they didn't believe in their company (anyone who is familiar with them and their philosophy knows this isn't the case). It just makes smart financial sense.
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DAMN Charlatan, I'm impressed. Great post, and good info. :)
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KiloOhm wrote:Actually Charlatan most companies are not giving options anymore in favor of "restricted stock" and straight bonuses because of all the FTC troubles of late.
Has nothing to do with the FTC, but alot to do with the SEC. They now have to expense options on the income statement, so lots of valuable options will mean big reductions in earnings - so they are switching to other compensation methods, none of which are as lucrative as options.
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Charlatan wrote:
Seems like these mergers are the best for the head honchos who own the stock.
This statement is incredibly true. :)

However the quoted part in your post above is at best misleading, and at worst disingenuous (and by the way, I'm blaming InsiderInsights not you!). Lemme explain ... no, there is no time to explain, lemme sum up:

...[terrific explanation follows......
I have no problem with someone who took a genuine risk hitting it big. And I don't know the history of these EB executives. Are they the founders? Did they take out 3rd mortages on their homes to start or save the business along the way?

In my experience most of those who benefit from this type of situation are in their positions mainly through sheer dumb luck. Yeah, they work hard and are usually smart. But so are all of us. They just happened to get hired by the company and work the 70-hour weeks like the rest of us, and they ended up at the right place at the right time. I haven't often seen extradordinary leadership. And at what point is does adequate compensation for "a job well done" exceed reasonableness? Someone who makes as much in a year to set them up for life - - because they were a real good accoutant and a friend of the CEO?
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