Looking for a reference Flight Sim

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:59 pm

Nothing makes your vid card beg for mercy like a good flight sim! With that said, I would like to see what my new card can handle, via a new generation flight sim.

The last sim I played was European Air War I believe, which was excellent. But now I am looking for something more recent, and wanted some feedback from board members.

What I see available now is:

Il2 Sturmovik (sp?) looks like I should try this one, but is it showing some age, graphically? Remember, I would like something with a lot of bling bling (as well as great flight model of course!)

Pacific Fighters? Reviews are "meh" at best...not sure I want to plunk down for something that won't grab me like EAW or WWII Fighters (good ol Jane's, sniff)

MS Flight Sim Century of Flight? I like combat, so I have stayed away from this...

MS Combat Flight Sim...3? Is there such a beast, and should I awaken it?

Seems like the flight sim genre is slowly dimming, (hope not) so if you know of great titles to consider that you don't see here, please let me know.

Archangel · Post by **Archangel** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:09 pm

"Lock on modern combat" aka LOMAC if you haven`t tried it.

I have not played it myself, but heard good things about it.

geezer · Post by **geezer** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:37 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:Nothing makes your vid card beg for mercy like a good flight sim! With that said, I would like to see what my new card can handle, via a new generation flight sim.

The last sim I played was European Air War I believe, which was excellent. But now I am looking for something more recent, and wanted some feedback from board members.

What I see available now is:

Il2 Sturmovik (sp?) looks like I should try this one, but is it showing some age, graphically? Remember, I would like something with a lot of bling bling (as well as great flight model of course!)

Pacific Fighters? Reviews are "meh" at best...not sure I want to plunk down for something that won't grab me like EAW or WWII Fighters (good ol Jane's, sniff)

MS Flight Sim Century of Flight? I like combat, so I have stayed away from this...

MS Combat Flight Sim...3? Is there such a beast, and should I awaken it?

Seems like the flight sim genre is slowly dimming, (hope not) so if you know of great titles to consider that you don't see here, please let me know.

Pacific Fighters id great. Personally, I'd splurge and get IL2 Gold and PAcific fighters and put em both together for one massive WWII orgy.

That said, if you really want to crush your system, Lock On: Modern Air Combat (LOMAC) is the only way to go.

Boudreaux · Post by **Boudreaux** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:25 pm

If you like modern jet combat, there is no better than LOMAC, especially for system slagging graphics. If WW2 prop sims are more your thing, I'd go with IL-2 Forgotten Battles. You can find either one for around $20 these days.

Gromit · Post by **Gromit** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:10 pm

Look here under Latest News.

If you buy PF, they 'll throw in LOMAC for free. Can't really beat that.

Veloxi · Post by **Veloxi** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:18 pm

Gromit wrote:Look here under Latest News.

If you buy PF, they 'll throw in LOMAC for free. Can't really beat that.

That is pretty much the best deal in town for survey sims. Also, IL-2 FB Gold is also highly recommended since you can install both FB and PF together. Other good survey sims include Jane's Fighter's Anthology, Jane's USAF, Jane's WWII Fighters, and Rowan's Mig Alley. I personally didn't like LOMAC at all, but it's decent, especially for free. Good luck!

Kratz · Post by **Kratz** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:55 pm

Pacific Fighters.

The only reason it is getting so-so marks is because people say it isn't different enough from Il-2, which is like saying the blow job isn't different enough from the oral sex...

Great game, just takes Il-2 to a new level and certainly ups the graphics considerably... and you won't be plowing through crappy documentation to figure out the 1000 keys you need in LOMAC.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:01 am

Kratz wrote:Pacific Fighters.

The only reason it is getting so-so marks is because people say it isn't different enough from Il-2, which is like saying the blow job isn't different enough from the oral sex...

Thanks - that's all I need to know...(and a little more

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Generally I think the mainstream review sites also don't appreciate flight sims, so it's hard to gauge from reviews whether one is good or not.

I even saw a review for LOMAC or PF can't remember which, started out: "Let me say upfront that I don't like flight simulators." What the?!?! Well, then STOP WRITING NOW YOU MORON - your obvious bias against the genre is going to screw up any objectivity! And of course, the score was abysmal at the end.

So to conclude - yes to Pacific Fighters, but no to LOMAC? Anybody else want to weigh in?

I am def getting PF at this point, just want to know if it's worth the extra cabbage to get the bundle of both, since I am only running an AMD 2500 (overclocked though). Gig ram, 6800OC vid card...ram and vid card probably ok, but that processor might get choked up on LOMAC from what I have read about it.

Let me hiijack my own thread and also reminisce about a jet sim from yesteryear - EF2000 - anyone remember that one/played it? FARGIN AWESOME if you ask me. (I believe that was right around the time that the first dedicated 3d chips became available, a la Monster 3D)

Boudreaux · Post by **Boudreaux** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:17 am

Carpet_pissr wrote:I am def getting PF at this point, just want to know if it's worth the extra cabbage to get the bundle of both, since I am only running an AMD 2500 (overclocked though). Gig ram, 6800OC vid card...ram and vid card probably ok, but that processor might get choked up on LOMAC from what I have read about it.

No, it'll run fine. I have an Athlon 2000+ and a GF FX5900OC and LOMAC runs really well and looks fantastic. There might be an occasional hiccup where things slow down a bit, but for the most part I'm getting a nice 30+ fps.

RunningMn9 · Post by **RunningMn9** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:24 am

Gromit wrote:Look here under Latest News.

If you buy PF, they 'll throw in LOMAC for free. Can't really beat that.

That was fantastic. I wasn't even going to read this thread, and now I bought two new games to add to my backlog.

I was going to come in to recommend IL-2, or the subsequent Pacific Fighters (which I haven't played yet, but heard good things about). I have more of a hankerin' for modern jets though - so was pleasantly surprised that UbiSoft let me pick them both up for $40. Sweet.

Thanks for the tip.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:37 pm

OK, I am looking at options for getting Il2 together with the needed expansions to be able to merge all - there are a LOT of versions out there!

There's the original Il2 standalone, there's some expansion called Combat Over Europe (1 AND 2 believe it or not), there's the Aces expansion, there's the Forgotten Battles expansion, and then you have the Gold edition which combines all of the above EXCEPT the Combat over Europe addons and the original Il-2, I think. Sheesh.

So if I buy the Gold Pack, which is a standalone product as I understand it, what am I missing by not having the original Il-2, and will that affect the combining with PF?

mori · Post by **mori** » Sun Dec 19, 2004 8:55 pm

All you need is the Gold pack (which includes Forgotten Battles and AEP) and Pacific Fighters. Combat Over Europe is not needed.

Edit: You are not missing anything by not getting the original IL-2. Forgotten Battles I believe has all the original content of the first game.

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