Firefox question

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:04 pm

Ok, d/led Firefox and I like it. It seems to work with alot of sites that Opera was having problems with. But it does have one major annoyance - when I do a Google search, it doesn't open a new window, but pulls Google up in the current window. This is so dumb, don't know why they programmed it this way. Lots of times, I've read something on that page that I want more info on so I google it - but I don't want my original page to go away.

I've looked in Options but can't see anything about this. Is there a solution? Can somone help? Thanks.

Grifman

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:25 pm

Are you talking about searches from the search bar in the upper right? If so, in Options-->Tabbed Browsing-->Load the Following in New Links you can select "Searches from the searchbar," and it will give you the option to have the results in a new tab on top, or in the background.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:02 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:Are you talking about searches from the search bar in the upper right? If so, in Options-->Tabbed Browsing-->Load the Following in New Links you can select "Searches from the searchbar," and it will give you the option to have the results in a new tab on top, or in the background.

Yes, searches from the upper right. But I don't seem to have the same options you do - I go:

Tools --> Options --> Advanced --> Tabbed Browsing --> Select new tabs from other links

There is no option to select Searches from the Searchbar.

Grifman

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:31 pm

How odd. For me, "Tabbed Browsing" is its own option - I don't need to go into "Advanced" to get there.

See, this is why I rarely offer help - I never seem to get things right!

warning · Post by **warning** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:31 pm

Grifman wrote:Lots of times, I've read something on that page that I want more info on so I google it - but I don't want my original page to go away.

Highlight the text you want to search for in Google. Then right-click with your mouse and click the option "Search web for..." It should open the google search in a separate tab.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:00 pm

warning wrote:
Grifman wrote:Lots of times, I've read something on that page that I want more info on so I google it - but I don't want my original page to go away.
Highlight the text you want to search for in Google. Then right-click with your mouse and click the option "Search web for..." It should open the google search in a separate tab.

Cool, that is helpful to some extent, at least when the term I wish to look up is on an already open page.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:01 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:How odd. For me, "Tabbed Browsing" is its own option - I don't need to go into "Advanced" to get there.

See, this is why I rarely offer help - I never seem to get things right!

Well, thanks anyway. What version are you using? I checked for any more recent updates, but Firefox said that I had the most recent version.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:12 pm

I'm using 1.0 - I haven't updated since I downloaded it (but I don't know if there have been any updates).

Zekester · Post by **Zekester** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:57 pm

Why not just open a new tab, and then do the search?

Veloxi · Post by **Veloxi** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:40 pm

Install Tabbrower Extensions. It allows you to do what you're talking about and a whole lot more. Enjoy!

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:21 pm

That could be it! I do have tabbrowser extensions installed.

godhugh · Post by **godhugh** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 4:38 pm

Yep, it's the TabBrowser Extensions. One of the few extensions I'd consider mandatory for Firefox.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:05 pm

godhugh wrote:Yep, it's the TabBrowser Extensions. One of the few extensions I'd consider mandatory for Firefox.

Thanks for the info. But at the site, it seems this extension has a number of serious problems, and the Foxfire/Mozilla people adamantly recommend AGAINST this. Anyone have any problems as they claim are prevalent?

Grifman

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:17 pm

What kind of problems are they talking about? A quick (i.e., not in depth) search of mozilla.org shows that some people had problems installing it, and some problems associated with using it with Firefox version 0.8, but I haven't had any problems at this time (unless I haven't realized that they were problems!).

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:01 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:What kind of problems are they talking about? A quick (i.e., not in depth) search of mozilla.org shows that some people had problems installing it, and some problems associated with using it with Firefox version 0.8, but I haven't had any problems at this time (unless I haven't realized that they were problems!).

Here are quotes from the TBE site:

This extension is strongly unrecommended by Mozilla Foundation. This extension has many many latent bugs (ref: above). If you use this, you must be prepared to own huge risk maybe.

Following is one of comments in Neowin.net:

TBE is one of the most buggest extensions. It has never been and most likely won't ever make it onto update.mozilla.org because of this. The firefox devs, other extension devs and many many people at mozillazine strongly discourage the use of TBE because of its buggyness. A lot, and I mean A LOT of bugs that are filed on bugzilla and new threads started on mozillazine are a result of this extension. Please just use the built in options (bangbang already explained how to turn these on) or if you feel you must use TabbedBrowserPreferences isntead.

And, following comments are posted by Ben Goodger - a core developer of Firefox in Mozilla Foundation - in the MozillaZine forum:

Everything just swell. I brought Firebird back up, installed Tabbrowser Extension ONLY, and exited again. Right away I called the browser back up again--but no go. I got a box with:

"Error launching. No XBL binding to browser."

The Firebird dev team recommends avoiding using TBE. Your best bet if you have to use it is to determine what builds TBE supports and then obtain that version of Firebird.

Hmm... doesn't seem an extension should prevent the browser from executing ..doesn't sound like a very good design in handling the functions of extensions.

In upcoming milestones we're going to be making some changes that will probably prevent TBE from working as a "standard extension."

TBE does some terrible things including replacing core browser files, and the Firebird dev team does not recommend using it unless you are prepared to have your browser break every few days. The only exception is if you tend to use a release build (rather than nightlies) and that release build is explicitly supported by TBE.

Because of one person, all of a sudden TBE is bad?

No, because of several people. The Firebird developers. TBE overwrites system files with its own. That's bad by any standard. But don't let us stop you from using whatever extensions you like. We're just not all that sympathetic when people's browsers break after installing things that do this. It's basically like installing a program that overwrites various DLLs in Windows\System with its own and promptly breaks other apps. If you use TBE you do so at your own risk - only use it with builds that TBE claims to support. Otherwise, you're asking for pain. Future milestones of Firebird will make it such that "simple" extensions are not permitted to make any changes to the install directory of Firebird and will make extensions like TBE stand out as being more "dangerous". The installer already blows away the entire bin directory when it "upgrades" an existing installation so TBE incompatibilities should be limited when using installer builds.

However - we will likely be looking at TBE's features and assessing what pieces should be built into the default configuration. If people have pet favorite features in TBE, perhaps a new thread should be started here to list them all so we can get an idea of what the key reasons are people use the extension.

I also agree comments above.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:06 pm

Well, reading that made me double check what I have installed, and I actually Tabbrowser Preferences, not Tabbrowser Extensions. Try that - it should have what you're looking for.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:18 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:Well, reading that made me double check what I have installed, and I actually Tabbrowser Preferences, not Tabbrowser Extensions. Try that - it should have what you're looking for.

Can't you ever get a right answer to one of my questions? What kind of lawyer are you - then again, you are a lawyer, so maybe that explains it

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:24 pm

I just like to mess with you.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:37 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:I just like to mess with you.

And I'm suing you for messing with me. Take that, fiend lawyer!

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:16 pm

ImLawBoy wrote:Well, reading that made me double check what I have installed, and I actually Tabbrowser Preferences, not Tabbrowser Extensions. Try that - it should have what you're looking for.

Thanks, this works and helps a great dea.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:43 am

ImLawBoy wrote: See, this is why I rarely offer help - I never seem to get things right!

Remind me not to hire you as my lawyer.

Snow · Post by **Snow** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:53 pm

I was just reading over the Firefox getting started web site and stumbled upon the solution.

Type in your search and then hit alt+enter and as if by magic, the search result appears in a new tab

godhugh · Post by **godhugh** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:00 pm

Hrm, that TBE stuff is wierd. I've been using it since Firefox 0.8 Beta and I've never had a problem. The only time FF crashes is when I click on G-Mail notifier and that's pretty rare.

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