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Racing Games with small (local type) tracks

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:23 am
by Austin
I was wondering if there is a racing game, console or PC (so does this go here? :P) that offers some of the smaller tracks around the US. Especially some of the ones out my way. Roebling Road, VIR, Barber, Carolina Motor Sports Park (ok... not Kershaw :P), Moroso, and other such tracks. Anyone know of such a beast?

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:14 pm
by Kasey Chang
Closest you'll get would be Drit Track Racing, and that's on Dirt, not asphalt.

Your best bet would be a racing package with its own track editor.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:54 pm
by Austin
Kasey Chang wrote:Closest you'll get would be Drit Track Racing, and that's on Dirt, not asphalt.

Your best bet would be a racing package with its own track editor.
Hmmm... track editor you say... Hmmm...

Re: Racing Games with small (local type) tracks

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:39 pm
by geezer
Austin wrote:I was wondering if there is a racing game, console or PC (so does this go here? :P) that offers some of the smaller tracks around the US. Especially some of the ones out my way. Roebling Road, VIR, Barber, Carolina Motor Sports Park (ok... not Kershaw :P), Moroso, and other such tracks. Anyone know of such a beast?
IIRC, the GPL community has translated an incredible number of tracks for use in that sim. Offhand, I don't know if any of the ones you mentioned have been done, but try starting out here and I bet you can find some:

http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.ph ... 2ff01&f=36

Looking for an unfair advantage? ;)

Re: Racing Games with small (local type) tracks

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:57 pm
by Austin
geezer wrote:
Austin wrote:I was wondering if there is a racing game, console or PC (so does this go here? :P) that offers some of the smaller tracks around the US. Especially some of the ones out my way. Roebling Road, VIR, Barber, Carolina Motor Sports Park (ok... not Kershaw :P), Moroso, and other such tracks. Anyone know of such a beast?
IIRC, the GPL community has translated an incredible number of tracks for use in that sim. Offhand, I don't know if any of the ones you mentioned have been done, but try starting out here and I bet you can find some:

http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.ph ... 2ff01&f=36

Looking for an unfair advantage? ;)
Although it wouldn't be the same as actually driving 'em it would be nice for fine tuning lines and maybe getting an idea of what to expect before actually trying them out.

I'll check it out. Road Atlanta and VIR have some nice off camber type areas, I wonder if that sort of thing translates into the game very well. But like I said, I'll check it out.

Re: Racing Games with small (local type) tracks

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:07 pm
by geezer
Austin wrote:
geezer wrote:
Austin wrote:I was wondering if there is a racing game, console or PC (so does this go here? :P) that offers some of the smaller tracks around the US. Especially some of the ones out my way. Roebling Road, VIR, Barber, Carolina Motor Sports Park (ok... not Kershaw :P), Moroso, and other such tracks. Anyone know of such a beast?
IIRC, the GPL community has translated an incredible number of tracks for use in that sim. Offhand, I don't know if any of the ones you mentioned have been done, but try starting out here and I bet you can find some:

http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.ph ... 2ff01&f=36

Looking for an unfair advantage? ;)
Although it wouldn't be the same as actually driving 'em it would be nice for fine tuning lines and maybe getting an idea of what to expect before actually trying them out.

I'll check it out. Road Atlanta and VIR have some nice off camber type areas, I wonder if that sort of thing translates into the game very well. But like I said, I'll check it out.
What's your spring schedule lookint lke as far as tracktime? I might make a swing east this summer fall -- would be cool to hook up with y'all at a track sometime :)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:18 pm
by magic
GPL most likely would have those tracks, if you search for the GPL track database, you'll find 99.9% of them there. NR2003 has a fair share of road courses for the PTA mods and such.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:34 pm
by gellar
I'd kill for any game version of Streets of Willow Springs. Goddamn I love me that track.

gellar

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:36 pm
by Greggy_D
gellar wrote:I'd kill for any game version of Streets of Willow Springs. Goddamn I love me that track.

gellar
I want the reverse. I wish they would make a real "Red Rock" from the N2 fantasy tracks.

Re: Racing Games with small (local type) tracks

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:23 pm
by Austin
geezer wrote:
Austin wrote:
geezer wrote:
Austin wrote:I was wondering if there is a racing game, console or PC (so does this go here? :P) that offers some of the smaller tracks around the US. Especially some of the ones out my way. Roebling Road, VIR, Barber, Carolina Motor Sports Park (ok... not Kershaw :P), Moroso, and other such tracks. Anyone know of such a beast?
IIRC, the GPL community has translated an incredible number of tracks for use in that sim. Offhand, I don't know if any of the ones you mentioned have been done, but try starting out here and I bet you can find some:

http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.ph ... 2ff01&f=36

Looking for an unfair advantage? ;)
Although it wouldn't be the same as actually driving 'em it would be nice for fine tuning lines and maybe getting an idea of what to expect before actually trying them out.

I'll check it out. Road Atlanta and VIR have some nice off camber type areas, I wonder if that sort of thing translates into the game very well. But like I said, I'll check it out.
What's your spring schedule lookint lke as far as tracktime? I might make a swing east this summer fall -- would be cool to hook up with y'all at a track sometime :)
I'm pretty open right now and don't have a whole lot planned this year as money is a bit tighter with teh wife being a mommy. My dad and I usually try to hit the track together at least twice/year so I'll chat with him and see when/where he'd like to hit. I'll check out VIR's schedule as it's a good chunk of fun. Barber could be worth the trip too though. Anyway, I'll see what's available and drop you an email.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:25 pm
by Austin
magic wrote:GPL most likely would have those tracks, if you search for the GPL track database, you'll find 99.9% of them there. NR2003 has a fair share of road courses for the PTA mods and such.
GPL? :P

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:48 pm
by magic
Grand Prix Legends, a 1967 F1 sim, released in 1998. Still regarded as the benchmark in sim racing, but Hard to find in stores, but if you go to www.bhmotorsports.com there's a "2004 demo" you can download, which includes all the cars, and watkins glen. The tracks from the GPL Track database will work in the demo, just download them and throw them in the "tracks" subdirectory in the GPL folder.

You will miss out on the 14+ mile, 172 turn Nuburgring Nordschliefe, and the original shipped tracks by going this route, but there are somewhere in the region of 500+ tracks to download made by the mod community, 99% of which rival the standard ones.

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:04 am
by U2K Tha Greate$t
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Peep game and go buy it........

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:08 am
by U2K Tha Greate$t
magic wrote:Grand Prix Legends, a 1967 F1 sim, released in 1998. Still regarded as the benchmark in sim racing, but Hard to find in stores, but if you go to www.bhmotorsports.com there's a "2004 demo" you can download, which includes all the cars, and watkins glen. The tracks from the GPL Track database will work in the demo, just download them and throw them in the "tracks" subdirectory in the GPL folder.

You will miss out on the 14+ mile, 172 turn Nuburgring Nordschliefe, and the original shipped tracks by going this route, but there are somewhere in the region of 500+ tracks to download made by the mod community, 99% of which rival the standard ones.

Thanks for the new message board mate, already sign up , under the alias Tha Don U2K..... :D

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:45 pm
by geezer
gellar wrote:I'd kill for any game version of Streets of Willow Springs. Goddamn I love me that track.

gellar
Do you know... for all the times I've run at WSIR I have NEVER done streets?? Probably because for better or for worse, my friends tend to be the "high horsepower" folks with Vipers and whatnot, and they think WSIR is beneath them or boring or something. Personally, I don't get off on spinning off of turn 8 at WSIR at 150, buth those guys seem to think it's a badge of manhood or something *shrug*

Personally I just think the Viper folks get embarassed when a Miata takes 'em on the inside od a turn ;)

Any time you want to do Streets, let's hook up!

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:57 pm
by gellar
geezer wrote:
gellar wrote:I'd kill for any game version of Streets of Willow Springs. Goddamn I love me that track.

gellar
Do you know... for all the times I've run at WSIR I have NEVER done streets?? Probably because for better or for worse, my friends tend to be the "high horsepower" folks with Vipers and whatnot, and they think WSIR is beneath them or boring or something. Personally, I don't get off on spinning off of turn 8 at WSIR at 150, buth those guys seem to think it's a badge of manhood or something *shrug*

Personally I just think the Viper folks get embarassed when a Miata takes 'em on the inside od a turn ;)

Any time you want to do Streets, let's hook up!
Yeah... I really, REALLY prefer Streets to WSIR. It's just more technical, and rewards smooth, accurate driving vs a metric shit ton of HP. I mean, I have a good amount of power in my car, but I get more satisfaction out of Streets. Also, since I daily drive my track car... I'm less likely to break shit on Steets ;).

Are there any track day organizers you like to run with geezer? I've run mostly with Speed Ventures (http://speedventures.net/2005_Schedule.asp) and found them to be a good group.

gellar

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:26 pm
by geezer
gellar wrote:
geezer wrote:
gellar wrote:I'd kill for any game version of Streets of Willow Springs. Goddamn I love me that track.

gellar
Do you know... for all the times I've run at WSIR I have NEVER done streets?? Probably because for better or for worse, my friends tend to be the "high horsepower" folks with Vipers and whatnot, and they think WSIR is beneath them or boring or something. Personally, I don't get off on spinning off of turn 8 at WSIR at 150, buth those guys seem to think it's a badge of manhood or something *shrug*

Personally I just think the Viper folks get embarassed when a Miata takes 'em on the inside od a turn ;)

Any time you want to do Streets, let's hook up!
Yeah... I really, REALLY prefer Streets to WSIR. It's just more technical, and rewards smooth, accurate driving vs a metric shit ton of HP. I mean, I have a good amount of power in my car, but I get more satisfaction out of Streets. Also, since I daily drive my track car... I'm less likely to break shit on Steets ;).

Are there any track day organizers you like to run with geezer? I've run mostly with Speed Ventures (http://speedventures.net/2005_Schedule.asp) and found them to be a good group.

gellar
I do speedventures sometimes -- I actually instructed at Fontana with speedventures a few months back...

I also run with open track racing (opentrackracing.com), but those guys are REAL heavy on WSIR.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:31 pm
by gellar
geezer wrote:
gellar wrote:
geezer wrote:
gellar wrote:I'd kill for any game version of Streets of Willow Springs. Goddamn I love me that track.

gellar
Do you know... for all the times I've run at WSIR I have NEVER done streets?? Probably because for better or for worse, my friends tend to be the "high horsepower" folks with Vipers and whatnot, and they think WSIR is beneath them or boring or something. Personally, I don't get off on spinning off of turn 8 at WSIR at 150, buth those guys seem to think it's a badge of manhood or something *shrug*

Personally I just think the Viper folks get embarassed when a Miata takes 'em on the inside od a turn ;)

Any time you want to do Streets, let's hook up!
Yeah... I really, REALLY prefer Streets to WSIR. It's just more technical, and rewards smooth, accurate driving vs a metric shit ton of HP. I mean, I have a good amount of power in my car, but I get more satisfaction out of Streets. Also, since I daily drive my track car... I'm less likely to break shit on Steets ;).

Are there any track day organizers you like to run with geezer? I've run mostly with Speed Ventures (http://speedventures.net/2005_Schedule.asp) and found them to be a good group.

gellar
I do speedventures sometimes -- I actually instructed at Fontana with speedventures a few months back...

I also run with open track racing (opentrackracing.com), but those guys are REAL heavy on WSIR.
I haven't run Fontana. I lack the balls to dive from the Speedway down into a turn.

gellar

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:05 pm
by magic
I'm actually looking for Summit Point Raceway in WV, right now, as we're heading down there in about a month for a four hour session. I don't think i've ever seen that track berfore, virtual or not.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:05 pm
by mori
You could check out Sport Car GT. It had some nice tracks but don't remember which ones or even if they were accurate.

The only game I have ever played that had Willow Springs would be AMA Superbike. Don't remember if it was Streets. I think the bikes race on WSIR.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:08 pm
by magic
and not two minutes later after looking here: http://trackdb.d2g.com/ i find it.

If that site doesn't link to a local track for grand prix legends, it doesn't exist.

Don't have the game? Go to www.bhmotorsports.com and download the "GPL 2004 Demo", install, and extract any/all tracks from that database into your "tracks" folder. Play, enjoy.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:33 pm
by Jeff Jones
http://www.liveforspeed.net/

Live For Speed is a very good sim, IMO. I've been running it for a while. It's downloadable and you can get started right away. There's a pretty large online community for it. Easter Sunday morning there were 300 people online racing.

The drawback is that there are only 3 or 4 tracks, but they can be mirrored, reversed, etc. Also, there's 'rallycross' variations of the tracks with dirt/tarmac mixes.

There's a demo if you want to try it out. It's £12, so however that translates to US$ i don't know (around $20 or $22 i think).

They are going to release stage 2 pretty soon, with several more tracks and a bunch of new car types, including F1.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:47 pm
by magic
live for speed is a very good sim based around club circuit racing and autocross racing, with a good selection of cars to choose from that resemble typical forms of street/track double duty cars. The one drawback for me is the lack of "real" circuits, but that doesn't detract from the sim at all. Well worth the low price. If you buy S1 and S2 (coming out soon) you've got a huge amount of fun for now and the future.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:23 pm
by geezer
gellar wrote:
geezer wrote:
gellar wrote:
geezer wrote:
gellar wrote:I'd kill for any game version of Streets of Willow Springs. Goddamn I love me that track.

gellar
Do you know... for all the times I've run at WSIR I have NEVER done streets?? Probably because for better or for worse, my friends tend to be the "high horsepower" folks with Vipers and whatnot, and they think WSIR is beneath them or boring or something. Personally, I don't get off on spinning off of turn 8 at WSIR at 150, buth those guys seem to think it's a badge of manhood or something *shrug*

Personally I just think the Viper folks get embarassed when a Miata takes 'em on the inside od a turn ;)

Any time you want to do Streets, let's hook up!
Yeah... I really, REALLY prefer Streets to WSIR. It's just more technical, and rewards smooth, accurate driving vs a metric shit ton of HP. I mean, I have a good amount of power in my car, but I get more satisfaction out of Streets. Also, since I daily drive my track car... I'm less likely to break shit on Steets ;).

Are there any track day organizers you like to run with geezer? I've run mostly with Speed Ventures (http://speedventures.net/2005_Schedule.asp) and found them to be a good group.

gellar
I do speedventures sometimes -- I actually instructed at Fontana with speedventures a few months back...

I also run with open track racing (opentrackracing.com), but those guys are REAL heavy on WSIR.
I haven't run Fontana. I lack the balls to dive from the Speedway down into a turn.

gellar
LOL. I understand that for sure. I slow down on the transition. some guys take it flat out from the entrance to the Speedway ALLLLLLLL the way down into what becomes turn 1. Crazy, especially in a car without downforce mods... I might do it in my Elise, but no way would I go flat throughthere in the Corvette I was driving at the time.