[Sony/Marvel] Kraven the Hunter

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:05 pm

"It's Kraven time!" Nope, doesn't work.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:27 pm

That looks terrible.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:48 pm

Yeah, pass. I only lasted 2/3 through the trailer.

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:12 pm

Wow, yeah I agree. Usually trailers just bounce off me, but that was bad. No trouble skipping this one.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:22 pm

I’m not sure why they felt the need to make him a hero. A villain story would be fun, I think.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:16 pm

Not enough leopard print yoga pants.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:52 pm

Ah, Sony. No one told them superhero movies have been over for a while now. They're just James Bond at this point. Every now and again there's a good one.

What's with Russell Crowe having a supporting role in all of these mediocre attempted cinematic universe franchise movies? Man of Steel, The Mummy, this.... (I still like Man of Steel, shut up.)

I have no idea who Kraven is outside of a Marvel Snap card and news of this film, but I think the only thing that could get me excited about it were if Crowe had the starring role.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:55 pm

He's the daddy villain, obvs.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:22 pm

Sudy wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:52 pm I have no idea who Kraven is outside of a Marvel Snap card and news of this film, but I think the only thing that could get me excited about it were if Crowe had the starring role.

Did you see Thor: Love and Thunder? If not, you should.

Regarding this movie, it's a weird choice - maybe. It's like they're sorta trying to build out the Spider-Man universe. Here's hoping for a Spider-Man / Morbius / Kraven ultra-mega blowout in 2027.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:13 pm

No love for Venom, eh?

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:22 pm

I think Venom can carry his own movie. But yeah, eventually if they're trying to do some type of MCU giant movie connection, eventually they're going to meet.

EDIT: Then again, maybe Sony will just throw all caution to the wind and make another Spider-Man vs everybody movie.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:31 pm

Sudy wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:52 pm What's with Russell Crowe having a supporting role in all of these mediocre attempted cinematic universe franchise movies? Man of Steel, The Mummy, this.... (I still like Man of Steel, shut up.)

I imagine that Crowe appreciates a fat paycheck as much as the next guy, and (potential) blockbusters must pay quite well without being particularly challenging roles. You're playing a comic book character, after all.

Sudy · Post by **Sudy** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:53 pm

Kraken the Hunter!

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:47 am

Sudy wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:53 pm Kraken the Hunter!

No chipmunk is safe.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:59 am

hepcat wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:22 pm I’m not sure why they felt the need to make him a hero. A villain story would be fun, I think.

My vague impression is that it is a villain origin story, but that he doesn't set out to be a villain ("My father puts evil in the world. I take it out."). Hence the tagline: Villains aren't born.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:36 am

One can only hope. It would be nice if Sony was doing a slate of true supervillain films, then inserting them as antagonists into their main superhero films....well....spiderman, as that's probably one of the only major ones they still own. It would certainly be a different approach than Marvel.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:32 am

Kraken wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:47 am
Sudy wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:53 pm Kraken the Hunter!
No chipmunk is safe.

I'd watch that over what I saw in the trailer....

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:39 am

Bad trailer aside, it is refreshing to see a superhero film where the hero has a hand to hand style that wasn't learned at the Black Widow School of Fighting.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:51 am

Lassr wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:32 am
Kraken wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:47 am
Sudy wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:53 pm Kraken the Hunter!
No chipmunk is safe.
I'd watch that over what I saw in the trailer....

Squirrel Girl series?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:51 am
Lassr wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:32 am
Kraken wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:47 am
Sudy wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:53 pm Kraken the Hunter!
No chipmunk is safe.
I'd watch that over what I saw in the trailer....
Squirrel Girl series?

They gotta make a Squirrel Girl movie eventually, right? Maybe the next time a studio executive reaches into the "quirky superhero" bag of IP?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:44 pm

El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm They gotta make a Squirrel Girl movie eventually, right? Maybe the next time a studio executive reaches into the "quirky superhero" bag of IP?

The next time that happens, that hand better damn well come out with a Triple P movie, damn it.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:00 pm

hepcat wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:44 pm
El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm They gotta make a Squirrel Girl movie eventually, right? Maybe the next time a studio executive reaches into the "quirky superhero" bag of IP?
The next time that happens, that hand better damn well come out with a Triple P movie, damn it.

Did you put his name into the bag of IP?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:08 pm

I did. I put it in the bag of IP freely.

<snicker>

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:14 pm

hepcat wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:08 pm I did. I put it in the bag of IP freely.

<snicker>

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:54 pm

hepcat wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:08 pm I did. I put it in the bag of IP freely.

<snicker>

It's that kind of wit and panache that has made you the darling of Hollywood.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:13 pm

El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:51 am
Lassr wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:32 am
Kraken wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:47 am
Sudy wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:53 pm Kraken the Hunter!
No chipmunk is safe.
I'd watch that over what I saw in the trailer....
Squirrel Girl series?
They gotta make a Squirrel Girl movie eventually, right? Maybe the next time a studio executive reaches into the "quirky superhero" bag of IP?

They did make an attempt at live action a few years ago, although I expect there'd have been some CGI touch-up on the final product:

hepcat wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:44 pm The next time that happens, that hand better damn well come out with a Triple P movie, damn it.

Well, they are working on a Fantastic Four MCU movie (good luck with that one...), and they are connecting Deadpool to the MCU, plus they've introduced Taskmaster and Ulysses Klaw (they killed him, but comic books), so that does open up some possibilities for a Frightful Four appearance.

So it's not impossible that we'd see him.

But, uh, I wouldn't start starching my purple beret just yet.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:46 pm

He glues things together! It writes itself, goddamnit.

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:53 pm

It's almost like you're stuck on this idea.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:44 pm

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:29 pm

Coming to theaters (only) in December.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:50 pm

I went from not interested to not really interested.

Baby steps, I guess.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:22 pm

I went from "I don't trust Sony to make another Spidey-adjacent film" to "I don't trust Sony to make another Spidey-adjacent film."

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:39 pm

It's a lot more violent then I was expecting, that's for sure.

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:37 am

Sony/Marvel's John Wick?

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:12 am

hepcat wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:22 pm I’m not sure why they felt the need to make him a hero. A villain story would be fun, I think.

He's not the hero, he's still a villain. It's the story of his rise.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:16 am

The problem for Sony is that they have a limited "universe" of Spider-Man characters that they have access to, and they keep trying to create a sustainable "Spidey Universe", but except for the Venom movies, no one is interested in anyone other than Spider-Man. Mobius, Madame Webb and now Kraven are all attempts to create this universe that no one really cares about. I don't know how much money they'll have to lose before someone at the top realizes this is a futile effort.

I am surprised that they haven't tried a Miles Morales or Gwen movie - those would have chances of being successful, I think. Get them in a movie with Tom Holland in his version of Spider-Man, and introduce them that way. Then if successful, they'd have a platform to spin them off in some way in their own movies.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:22 am

El Guapo wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:27 pm They gotta make a Squirrel Girl movie eventually, right? Maybe the next time a studio executive reaches into the "quirky superhero" bag of IP?

Far too much of a niche, cult character. I mean the name, "Squirrel Girl" is just so cringy.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:32 am

But "Ant Man" is okay?

Let's face it, they're all pretty cringy.

Except for Paste Pot Pete. It describes him perfectly, giving you an idea of what you're in for when you meet him. It also explains the pot he's carrying.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Thu Aug 15, 2024 10:54 am

McNutt wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:27 pm That looks terrible.

Because Kraven is terrible.

At least Squirrel Girl is campy fun.