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Awesome. glad to hear that.Lassr wrote:my wife is out of surgery and doing great!
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That's great news!Lassr wrote:Ok. This tapatalk is convenient but also a pain. But on the bright side my wife is out of surgery and doing great!
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Lassr wrote:Ok. This tapatalk is convenient but also a pain. But on the bright side my wife is out of surgery and doing great!
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huzzah! Now she can go back to proofreading your Six PM's for the next BSG Tapatalk sucks at grabbing quotes.Lassr wrote:Dammit. I cannot see the Remus part of the quote on tapatalk when I post it. So I don't know if you can see it. Screw this for now.
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Grund has contributed zilch this game (more then me tho). That didn't thumb me into the eye too much but when he went into number of potential misses we have it just looked like more fluff.Unagi wrote:Grund seems to be enjoying himself too. Not sure what to make of that.
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I would trust the Unagi wolf sense if he hadn't been cleared by another wolf already but you do make an interesting case for voting purge. I'm just not sure I agree. As for LM, he is a friggin wind chime. You never know which what the wind blows with him. (and I love him for it)Unagi wrote:I'm fine with being tested, and I'd HIGHLY enjoy not be put in a position to 'fight for it' at the very end - but if we are going to start lynching Remus' scans; I suggest that when you learn I'm a villager (should we start on me) you don't give up on testing purge. I seriously think he's contributing to this game EXACTLY the way he would as a wolf. His posts don't ever actually accuse anyone of much... He's just sitting in the wings. He's a wolf. Wouldn't purge have pushed back at me a little more? I didn't sense any suspicion from him against me at all when he came in and posted his Hit/Miss Analysis. And, IF purge is indeed a wolf, I would look back at LM and review his position on purge throughout the game. (there are moments he seems to push people away from the idea of voting for purge with the phrases he tosses out there)
purge
If LM is pushing people away from voting for someone specific (purge), does that not make him look guilty already? I would prefer going after those who were early on the bb2112 lynch, though. Lord Mortis falls under both those criteria. Otherwise, I will probably follow go with Unagi.Unagi wrote:I'm fine with being tested, and I'd HIGHLY enjoy not be put in a position to 'fight for it' at the very end - but if we are going to start lynching Remus' scans; I suggest that when you learn I'm a villager (should we start on me) you don't give up on testing purge. I seriously think he's contributing to this game EXACTLY the way he would as a wolf. His posts don't ever actually accuse anyone of much... He's just sitting in the wings. He's a wolf. Wouldn't purge have pushed back at me a little more? I didn't sense any suspicion from him against me at all when he came in and posted his Hit/Miss Analysis. And, IF purge is indeed a wolf, I would look back at LM and review his position on purge throughout the game. (there are moments he seems to push people away from the idea of voting for purge with the phrases he tosses out there)
purge
I ~warned~ the cabal off scanning bb2112. That's amazing.tru1cy wrote:I'm leaving my vote on Unagi. His trying to warn the cabal off from scanning bb2112 looks very suspicious to me in hindsight.
Can you explain to me when "the math doesn't make sense"?LordMortis wrote:Remus has been at the center of these crazy what if's before and has been evil in the middle of them before. He should know better than causing what if problems especially when he is at the center of them. That's why I'd only give him the benefit of the doubt having made this mistake twice until the math doesn't make sense.Vorret wrote:Sure it's some crazy conspiracy theory but... what if?
Of course if it all goes to hell, I'd also blame bb2112 if he was sitting on seer and didn't say anything before hand.
I also concur with Unagi that you have to scan Q. Even if both he and remus were wolves, the play makes the most sense. You can't let the wolves have information the village does not.
Six minutes later:tru1cy wrote:Just so everyone know we are having a bit of a debate on whom to scan...
Six minutes later:Unagi wrote:If that's a request for input; I would say we should learn what the wolves know. They don't know anything about bb2112 right now, but they do know what Qantaga was. Obviously we want to know both, but we won't be able to catch up on autopsies until they kill one of the uncontested specials.
that's my opinion.
The same minute:Vorret wrote:It's night... I fail again with my sceance vote.
I suggest BB as well in that case
(Side note: So, during this night Vorret has called for a senance of BB2112 (which will be impossible in the morning), made a big point about how Remus could be a wolf, called for BB2112 to be the scan, but immediately corrected to Qantaga... it's all perfect to point at later to say he's good, while worth nothing at all when actually posted... IMO.)Vorret wrote:read too fast , I think you're suggesting quantaga
Unagi wrote:I sure am. Either of them could have been sitting on the Seer (or Hunter) roles, but the wolves already know about Qantaga, and would love to hear about BB2112.Vorret wrote:read too fast , I think you're suggesting quantaga
What's the logic to scan BB2112 over Qantaga?
Vorret wrote:Unagi wrote:Well I'm curious as to why Remus killed BB before he had a chance to talk.Vorret wrote:What's the logic to scan BB2112 over Qantaga?
Also his "scan" have not been verified by anyone, for all we know, you could be a wolf.
Sure it's some crazy conspiracy theory but... what if?
(Side note - it's interesting that LordMortis doesn't say anything about blaming Qantaga as well.)LordMortis wrote:Remus has been at the center of these crazy what if's before and has been evil in the middle of them before. He should know better than causing what if problems especially when he is at the center of them. That's why I'd only give him the benefit of the doubt having made this mistake twice until the math doesn't make sense.Vorret wrote:Sure it's some crazy conspiracy theory but... what if?
Of course if it all goes to hell, I'd also blame bb2112 if he was sitting on seer and didn't say anything before hand.
I also concur with Unagi that you have to scan Q. Even if both he and remus were wolves, the play makes the most sense. You can't let the wolves have information the village does not.
Yes, I totally agree. So, who immediately voted for Remus?Lagom Lite wrote:So. Remus is a lying wolf, and of course the Berzerker. This seems like a good opportunity to use the Hunter shot.
tru1cy wrote:Remus you have some explaining to do!!!
Remus West
However, he does remove the vote as soon as I ask Tru1cy to remove his, after which we get:LordMortis wrote:
And there we go. BB2112, why didn't you speak up!!!!!
Remus West
Vorret wrote:Wow... my conspiracy theory was right.
RW
This from the guy who said (after it was impossible to do so) that we should seance BB2112 to find out why Remus killed him without allowing him to say anything. He knows that the wolves have no knowledge about players prior their kill, so it makes no sense to call to seance BB2112 to find out why - but it's very useful for Vorret to point at later to say he is good.Vorret wrote:I wonder why BB didn't say anything, that's so weird.
Now... he said he scanned Unagi and CR ... he had no way to know if either of them we're the hunter so it was a big gamble to name them , though one of them could also be the other wolf (risky).
We should lynch them next.
I also agreed with unagi about scanning the dead player in which the wolves already knew their role. Only logical choice without knowing about the other info.Unagi wrote:I ~warned~ the cabal off scanning bb2112. That's amazing.tru1cy wrote:I'm leaving my vote on Unagi. His trying to warn the cabal off from scanning bb2112 looks very suspicious to me in hindsight.
tru1cy, I wanted to know what the wolves knew. I didn't warn you from scanning bb2112. You came and said you were having a debate. Quite frankly - I assumed my 'advice' would be translated to: "Listen to Lagom, he is right; you should scan the player that the wolves know about."
AM I WRONG? Had you not already gotten news on Qantaga's role - wasn't the bb2112 scan 'second priority'? So, yeah - sorry my correct advice seems to look like I was trying to hide bb2112's role from you all... Cause, yeah - I knew.
The math of following him doesn't make sense when you can't win if Remus is a wolf lying to you and you keep following him as if he's a seer. In the world where bb2112 was scanned and I was alive I would have only followed Remus' lead for another two days without him producing a wolf and then he'd get one more day to win the game.redrun wrote:Can you explain to me when "the math doesn't make sense"?LordMortis wrote:Remus has been at the center of these crazy what if's before and has been evil in the middle of them before. He should know better than causing what if problems especially when he is at the center of them. That's why I'd only give him the benefit of the doubt having made this mistake twice until the math doesn't make sense.Vorret wrote:Sure it's some crazy conspiracy theory but... what if?
Of course if it all goes to hell, I'd also blame bb2112 if he was sitting on seer and didn't say anything before hand.
I also concur with Unagi that you have to scan Q. Even if both he and remus were wolves, the play makes the most sense. You can't let the wolves have information the village does not.
I don't understand. Why would I blame Q for not speaking up before killed at night? I also don't think it's a side note. If that somehow sheds light on my guilt, then it's a note.(Side note - it's interesting that LordMortis doesn't say anything about blaming Qantaga as well.)
The three wolfscans - CR, Purge, Unagi.Vorret wrote:My idea is that putting 3 "real" villagers there gave him 3 person who could back him up (well before we found out about BB) and it protects the wolves once he dies, which he knew would happen and it's only 3 people, not a big pool to hide in.
I think we'll be wasting our time if we lynch the 3 wolfscan.
You were one of the folks saying it was better to scan Qantaga over BB2112. You've jumped votes three times today. You did a move today that I saw you do last game when you were evil (which, should you be a wolf, really makes me want to look at Grund).Vorret wrote:so they make the cabal scan Qantaga, kill Trigger so we can't sceance anyone.
It buys them another day, at that point, Remus would have had to work really hard to kill the suspicions but he probably would have succeded in having another villager lynched, we got extremely lucky we could have lost right there, at some point the wolf would have figured out we killed the seer in one of the lynch and would have suggested someone else for the scan until we all died.
withdraw RMC
Unagi
I agree with Theo, he's a good test.
redrun wrote:The three wolfscans - CR, Purge, Unagi.Vorret wrote:My idea is that putting 3 "real" villagers there gave him 3 person who could back him up (well before we found out about BB) and it protects the wolves once he dies, which he knew would happen and it's only 3 people, not a big pool to hide in.
I think we'll be wasting our time if we lynch the 3 wolfscan.You were one of the folks saying it was better to scan Qantaga over BB2112. You've jumped votes three times today. You did a move today that I saw you do last game when you were evil (which, should you be a wolf, really makes me want to look at Grund).Vorret wrote:so they make the cabal scan Qantaga, kill Trigger so we can't sceance anyone.
It buys them another day, at that point, Remus would have had to work really hard to kill the suspicions but he probably would have succeded in having another villager lynched, we got extremely lucky we could have lost right there, at some point the wolf would have figured out we killed the seer in one of the lynch and would have suggested someone else for the scan until we all died.
withdraw RMC
Unagi
I agree with Theo, he's a good test.
Vorret
You first suggested BB2112, followed by a post with a timestamp of the same minute calling for Qantaga.Vorret wrote:redrun wrote:Vorret wrote:You were one of the folks saying it was better to scan Qantaga over BB2112. You've jumped votes three times today. You did a move today that I saw you do last game when you were evil (which, should you be a wolf, really makes me want to look at Grund).
Vorret
If you we're not a "known" I'd push to lynch you. Stop trying to have me lynch by saying lies about what I said.
I pushed to scan Qantaga? Where? I never said that.
Vorret wrote:It's night... I fail again with my sceance vote.
I suggest BB as well in that case
Vorret wrote:read too fast , I think you're suggesting quantaga
I don't see that as me pushing for Q only a correction that Unagi wasn't pushing for BB as I had insinuated, though I have to admit that what I think (French) may sometimes not make as much sense when written in Englishredrun wrote:You first suggested BB2112, followed by a post with a timestamp of the same minute calling for Qantaga.Vorret wrote:redrun wrote:Vorret wrote:You were one of the folks saying it was better to scan Qantaga over BB2112. You've jumped votes three times today. You did a move today that I saw you do last game when you were evil (which, should you be a wolf, really makes me want to look at Grund).
Vorret
If you we're not a "known" I'd push to lynch you. Stop trying to have me lynch by saying lies about what I said.
I pushed to scan Qantaga? Where? I never said that.Vorret wrote:It's night... I fail again with my sceance vote.
I suggest BB as well in that caseVorret wrote:read too fast , I think you're suggesting quantaga
French is your mother tongue? That's cool, so I'm not the only non-English native speaker here then.Vorret wrote:I don't see that as me pushing for Q only a correction that Unagi wasn't pushing for BB as I had insinuated, though I have to admit that what I think (French) may sometimes not make as much sense when written in Englishredrun wrote:You first suggested BB2112, followed by a post with a timestamp of the same minute calling for Qantaga.Vorret wrote:redrun wrote:Vorret wrote:You were one of the folks saying it was better to scan Qantaga over BB2112. You've jumped votes three times today. You did a move today that I saw you do last game when you were evil (which, should you be a wolf, really makes me want to look at Grund).
Vorret
If you we're not a "known" I'd push to lynch you. Stop trying to have me lynch by saying lies about what I said.
I pushed to scan Qantaga? Where? I never said that.Vorret wrote:It's night... I fail again with my sceance vote.
I suggest BB as well in that caseVorret wrote:read too fast , I think you're suggesting quantaga
Nah, I'd rather think it's you and Vorret. Or Grund.Lassr wrote:Hell. Unagi and purge are probably the last two wolves...
That would be funny
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(Glad to hear everything went well with the surgery and all.)Lagom Lite wrote:Nah, I'd rather think it's you and Vorret. Or Grund.Lassr wrote:Hell. Unagi and purge are probably the last two wolves...
That would be funny
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I hope you guys will manage to win after you've lynched all the good villagers !Lagom Lite wrote:French is your mother tongue? That's cool, so I'm not the only non-English native speaker here then.Vorret wrote:I don't see that as me pushing for Q only a correction that Unagi wasn't pushing for BB as I had insinuated, though I have to admit that what I think (French) may sometimes not make as much sense when written in Englishredrun wrote:You first suggested BB2112, followed by a post with a timestamp of the same minute calling for Qantaga.Vorret wrote:redrun wrote:Vorret wrote:You were one of the folks saying it was better to scan Qantaga over BB2112. You've jumped votes three times today. You did a move today that I saw you do last game when you were evil (which, should you be a wolf, really makes me want to look at Grund).
Vorret
If you we're not a "known" I'd push to lynch you. Stop trying to have me lynch by saying lies about what I said.
I pushed to scan Qantaga? Where? I never said that.Vorret wrote:It's night... I fail again with my sceance vote.
I suggest BB as well in that caseVorret wrote:read too fast , I think you're suggesting quantaga
Still, I see redrun's points. You've come off as evasive to me, too. I know I thought at one point that you were a special, but since we now know you can't be (all specials are accounted for), that probably means you're a wolf.
Vorret
it went so well that she got to come home 4 days earlier than expected. We are home now.Lagom Lite wrote:(Glad to hear everything went well with the surgery and all.)Lagom Lite wrote:Nah, I'd rather think it's you and Vorret. Or Grund.Lassr wrote:Hell. Unagi and purge are probably the last two wolves...
That would be funny
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Scoop20906 wrote:Grund has contributed zilch this game (more then me tho). That didn't thumb me into the eye too much but when he went into number of potential misses we have it just looked like more fluff.Unagi wrote:Grund seems to be enjoying himself too. Not sure what to make of that.
How many opinions on actual players has Grund posted this game? He is playing middle of the road, careful, and just active enough. Why can't you all see that?
