Re: The Kamala Harris presidential candidacy
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:10 pm
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Maga: why did he wait so long to endorse her.. too late that means he supports trump.Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:47 am The Obamas have endorsed Harris, and with perfect timing to make Trump look even more stupid after his "bUt ObaMa hASn'T eNDorSeD hER" excuse for backing out of the debates last night.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... 4477775941
Give me a day to get back to this. I'm really tired at the moment.Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:26 amYes, PLEASE answer that as honestly as you can. I would love to know so I can get possibly get some context into my Dad's brain since I have been dying to ask him this (but it always elevates to yelling before we get there).YellowKing wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:24 amSerious question - why do you care about honesty when you support a candidate who claims babies are being executed after they're born (false). Or claimed that 20 million immigrants entered the country last year (false, not even close). Or dozens of other claims that can be easily fact-checked and debunked?em2nought wrote:Since then I think I've noticed an uptick in people wondering if so many sources promoted that lie for so long what else might be a lie.
Do you actually believe Trump is telling the truth, and the entire rest of the world is lying to you about the "facts," or do you just not care when he does it?
I'm seriously trying to get into the mindset of someone who believes stuff that can easily be fact-checked with just a few seconds of effort.
Malcom Gladwell’s “Blink” talked about how 58% of male Fortune 500 CEOs are over 6’ tall, which is 4X the percentage of men who are that tall in the US.waitingtoconnect wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:42 pm Kamala is too short to be president now apparently (she is five two).
Seems maga is calling for an apartheight regime; the Tall who are given all the rights and the jockeys who will be their servants
I’d tell you to go lie down on the couch, but there’s a good chance J.D. Vance is way ahead of you on that.em2nought wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:38 pmGive me a day to get back to this. I'm really tired at the moment.Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:26 amYes, PLEASE answer that as honestly as you can. I would love to know so I can get possibly get some context into my Dad's brain since I have been dying to ask him this (but it always elevates to yelling before we get there).YellowKing wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:24 amSerious question - why do you care about honesty when you support a candidate who claims babies are being executed after they're born (false). Or claimed that 20 million immigrants entered the country last year (false, not even close). Or dozens of other claims that can be easily fact-checked and debunked?em2nought wrote:Since then I think I've noticed an uptick in people wondering if so many sources promoted that lie for so long what else might be a lie.
Do you actually believe Trump is telling the truth, and the entire rest of the world is lying to you about the "facts," or do you just not care when he does it?
I'm seriously trying to get into the mindset of someone who believes stuff that can easily be fact-checked with just a few seconds of effort.
Funny, I was just reading about that today. Does social status shape height?Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:05 pm
Does being tall make someone a better leader? Enquiring minds want to know…
The linked story delves deeper, if your inquiring mind really wants to know.he Maya people of Guatemala are among the shortest people in the world. Men on average hover a few inches above 5 feet and women a few inches below. But if they move to the United States as children, the Maya grow taller. That extra growth carries to the next generation: Maya children born to Guatemalan immigrants in the United States are roughly four inches taller than their peers in Guatemala, research by biological anthropologist Barry Bogin shows. Some of that gap disappears as children reach adulthood, but even then, Maya people in the United States are still taller than people in their native country.
Economists have long observed increases in height across immigrant communities worldwide. Improved nutrition and sanitation are the conventional explanations for such growth.
But Bogin, of Loughborough University in England, and other researchers think there’s more to it than just better health. Even wealthy children in Guatemala tend to be shorter than children who grow up in the United States. Moving a child from one society to another — even if their lifestyle doesn’t change significantly — shifts their growth trajectory to match that of children in their new community, Bogin says.
His proposal that height has a social component rests on evidence that genetics and nutrition can’t explain all variation in human height (SN: 5/13/20). It’s also based on research in behavioral ecology showing that the growth of many social animals adapts in response to members of their community, a phenomenon referred to as “strategic growth.” In species with rigid hierarchies, dominant members often grow larger while subordinate members stay smaller.
Strategic growth also drives growth in humans, Bogin proposed in 2021 in Human Biology and Public Health. His research suggests that height not only reflects a person’s perceived social status within their community, but also their society’s underlying political and economic conditions. For instance, height disparities are wider in highly unequal societies and shrink in more egalitarian ones. When people in highly stratified countries move to more egalitarian communities, they tend to grow taller, studies of Western countries suggest. Based on animal research, Bogin suspects hormones, including those released when the body is under stress, may modulate the social aspects of height.
So I guess those very religious voters should vote for NBA basketball stars to become their leaders.waitingtoconnect wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:27 pm You jockey sympathisers are always trying to use science to undercut the reality that the tall are closer to heaven and this blessed of God. In our tall-short political culture let us not forget Hitler came from the short not the tall.
And if the short are so great why do they lose at basketball all the time?
I’m a dead even 5’10, for what it’s worth (though my co-founder was 6’4). My best friend (CTO of a firm) is maybe 5’7. All that said - height vs salary research: https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmar ... stand-why/LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:43 am Every csuite I've worked for or interacted with has been notably taller than average. Except for women. Women in these roles, in my experience, aren't notably taller than average.
Granted, all anecdotal and a small sample size, but pretty striking.
How does that happen?geezer wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:39 am
Back on topic, I’ve been invited to the “10k White Dudes for Harris” call Monday night. Will report back
I agree 100%. Americans are increasingly turning away from the large, mainstream media voices putting their viewer numbers under pressure. Add to this the fact that their ratings always drop with a Democrat as President (Except for Fox, of course) and the business plan becomes obvious: Make Biden look like a failure to draw conservative viewers and the "Anti-Biden" woke left (the endless coverage of the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan was the kickoff) while smoothing over the increasingly mainstream image of Donald Trump. Then, when Trump wins again, their ratings soar and they can bash him for four years to the delight of their "base".Unagi wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 12:00 pm ...I think we need to accept that no matter what, the media is going to try very very hard to give us a Trump Presidency. Again.
Very cool. Please do report back.geezer wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:37 am
I have a friend who's heavily involved in Black Democratic party circles, and she invited me.
I'm 5'10" as well (6'2" in the Trump measurement system). I don't buy I to the height thing being meaningful but I do make note.geezer wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:39 amI’m a dead even 5’10, for what it’s worth (though my co-founder was 6’4). My best friend (CTO of a firm) is maybe 5’7. All that said - height vs salary research: https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmar ... stand-why/LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:43 am Every csuite I've worked for or interacted with has been notably taller than average. Except for women. Women in these roles, in my experience, aren't notably taller than average.
Granted, all anecdotal and a small sample size, but pretty striking.
Very cool. Interested to hear how it goes. Although I think over 100 attendees and it ceases to be a call and becomes a virtual town hall or a webinar. That one with 30K? Quit crashing zoom, already!geezer wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:39 am Back on topic, I’ve been invited to the “10k White Dudes for Harris” call Monday night. Will report back
Sorry I don't have alt text for the image....and generally sounded like someone you wouldn’t want to sit near at a restaurant
it's because they are breathing rarified air up thereSkinypupy wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 8:05 pmMalcom Gladwell’s “Blink” talked about how 58% of male Fortune 500 CEOs are over 6’ tall, which is 4X the percentage of men who are that tall in the US.waitingtoconnect wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:42 pm Kamala is too short to be president now apparently (she is five two).
Seems maga is calling for an apartheight regime; the Tall who are given all the rights and the jockeys who will be their servants
Does being tall make someone a better leader? Enquiring minds want to know…
It's a counter to the hard right "it will be a bloodless Second American Revolution if the Left allows it to be" stuff. The far right was using an approach of fear and despondency to try to disengage voters. Project 2025, while it may motivate some opposition, also serves to terrify and people who panic often disengage. The media and social media loves scary stuff, it brings eyeballs feeds into the catastrophizing bias, which brings in money. The Harris campaign appears to be, wisely, trying to turn down the fear level to keep people from jumping out of [figurative and literal] windows.$iljanus wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:55 am There's been some interesting articles about the pivot from "threat to democracy" to "He's just... weird". The campaign still talks about how a Trump presidency threatens democracy but by prefacing it with the weird twins Trump and Vance it seems to resonate with more people. And it mocks the orange fella but isn't meanspirited like Trump.
Some smart folks on the Harris campaign. Also, Trump and Vance happen to be pretty damn weird.![]()
This election is about what the next president and their enablers plan to do. The existence of Project 2025 (and the fact that this has broken through to voters almost organically) sets those terms.YellowKing wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:12 pm I think she's also smartly providing voters with a forward-looking choice, rather than relying on Biden's legacy. Because guess what? Voters apparently don't care about Biden's legacy. Trumpeting his many accomplishments didn't move the needle at all, and tying herself to that wouldn't have gotten her anywhere.
Team democrat sort of had to make that pivot after the way it was decided that Kamala Harris was now your candidate don't you think>?$iljanus wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:55 am There's been some interesting articles about the pivot from "threat to democracy" to "He's just... weird".
Does anyone actually believe that politicians tell the truth? I just have to go with my gut on who I think we would be better under. I think lots of the problems that we have added since Trump was president might not be problems if he was still president. Most of my decisions are more gut based instead of based on the "supposed" facts because I don't trust most facts. Was Columbus the first European to find America? I don't think so. Were there highly technical skilled civilizations in our distant past? I think so. Will spending tons of cash to fight global warming have any effect other than to empty our pocketbooks? I don't think so. Maybe most things come down to what sources people believe. My primary source of knowledge for the first thirty years of my life was a world book encyclopedia from 1955.Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:26 amYes, PLEASE answer that as honestly as you can. I would love to know so I can get possibly get some context into my Dad's brain since I have been dying to ask him this (but it always elevates to yelling before we get there).YellowKing wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:24 amSerious question - why do you care about honesty when you support a candidate who claims babies are being executed after they're born (false). Or claimed that 20 million immigrants entered the country last year (false, not even close). Or dozens of other claims that can be easily fact-checked and debunked?em2nought wrote:Since then I think I've noticed an uptick in people wondering if so many sources promoted that lie for so long what else might be a lie.
Do you actually believe Trump is telling the truth, and the entire rest of the world is lying to you about the "facts," or do you just not care when he does it?
I'm seriously trying to get into the mindset of someone who believes stuff that can easily be fact-checked with just a few seconds of effort.