Octopus Overlords

The 5-beep error code indicates either that the relay is stuck closed, or that the ground conductor on the circuit is malfunctioning. Please do as follows:

Turn off the breaker for your unit and also unplug your JuiceBox from the outlet (if a plugin model). Then try tapping on the JuiceBox's side or front (quite strongly, but not in full force, of course). Since the internal relay is a mechanical part, it should unstick.

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:39 am What could possibly go wrong?

That stinks. My JuiceBox was the old model (looks like a glorified tin box) but was rock-solid for me for 3 years charging 2 cars.

LordMortis wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:45 am If it doesn't work apply more force. If it breaks it needed fixing anyway. Isn't that the corollary to if it is too loud turn up the radio. If that doesn't fix the problem replace the unit or get a new radio.

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• Upgrade of existing and construction of new EV charging infrastructure
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Zaxxon wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:26 pm For LM, seeker of cheap livable BEVs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuvbXRKhb2U

Kurth wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:39 pmThat's kind of misleading (not by you, Zaxxon, but the video). He paid $3,600 for a used Leaf with a massive dent in it that he had to drive to Seattle to pick up and haul it back on a trailer. Umm . . . ok. But that's not the experience of most people looking for a "cheap" electric car.

One problem: If you buy a used EV, you forfeit any available tax credits, which can easily be worth up to $10K. That means, you need to find a really cheap option to make a used EV work financially.

Another: It's gotten a little better, but finding a used EV in good condition at a decent price is almost impossible, which is why he probably ended up with one that had clearly been in a serious accident and he still had to haul it back from Seattle on a trailer.

Conclusion: A "cheap livable EV" is still a unicorn.

Shares of Rivian Automotive Inc (RIVN.O) closed 7.3% lower on Monday after the electric-vehicle maker recalled nearly all its vehicles, heightening investor concerns that the company may not be able to meet its 2023 production target.
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Amazon-backed Rivian on Friday recalled about 13,000 vehicles due to a possible loose fastener that could cause the driver to lose steering control.

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:47 pm

Kurth wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:39 pmThat's kind of misleading (not by you, Zaxxon, but the video). He paid $3,600 for a used Leaf with a massive dent in it that he had to drive to Seattle to pick up and haul it back on a trailer. Umm . . . ok. But that's not the experience of most people looking for a "cheap" electric car.

Definitely--he went for 'the cheapest', not just cheap. But you can (or could when last I looked) get a similar Leaf without a salvage title and with a working charge port for $5-7k.

One problem: If you buy a used EV, you forfeit any available tax credits, which can easily be worth up to $10K. That means, you need to find a really cheap option to make a used EV work financially.

Not anymore under the new bill taking effect in Jan, or in certain states (eg CO).

Another: It's gotten a little better, but finding a used EV in good condition at a decent price is almost impossible, which is why he probably ended up with one that had clearly been in a serious accident and he still had to haul it back from Seattle on a trailer.

He was going for the cheapest he could find, conditions be damned. Definitely a very specific choice to improve his vid's marketing and not something a real buyer would do.

Conclusion: A "cheap livable EV" is still a unicorn.

It's really not. Caveated with 'a $3750 livable EV' absolutely is.

Nikola founder Trevor Milton was convicted Friday by a U.S. jury of fraud in a case alleging he lied to investors about the electric and hydrogen fuel cell company’s technology.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:09 pm Morton convicted.

Nikola founder Trevor Morton was convicted Friday by a U.S. jury of fraud in a case alleging he lied to investors about the electric and hydrogen fuel cell company’s technology.

stessier wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:31 pm I'm not sure how I feel that the fix worked.

Zarathud wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:20 am My wife has a nose that smells everything. She thought a car smelled off, and we later followed up on the VIN and confirmed it had been in a flood zone.

Jeff V wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:04 pm

Zarathud wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:20 am My wife has a nose that smells everything. She thought a car smelled off, and we later followed up on the VIN and confirmed it had been in a flood zone.

That's a pretty good talent. If I can smell something, that usually means it stinks to high heaven.

Tesla has added a new 240 V AC charger to its offerings, but surprisingly it can't charge a Tesla unless you use an adapter. Instead, and as the name suggests, the J1772 Wall Connector uses the J1772-spec plug, which is standard to all EVs in the US other than Tesla EVs.

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:31 am You typically wouldn't buy that one if you have only Teslas. It's for folks that have more than one brand.

Jeff V wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:45 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:31 am You typically wouldn't buy that one if you have only Teslas. It's for folks that have more than one brand.

That's got to be a small customer base...

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:39 pm More than you might think. Especially in commercial settings, where it's now brain-dead easy to implement multi-vendor setups, all of which will earn income for the site owner.

Jeff V wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:58 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:39 pm More than you might think. Especially in commercial settings, where it's now brain-dead easy to implement multi-vendor setups, all of which will earn income for the site owner.

If it generates income for the site owner, then why don't gas stations all have them? It would seem like a perfect way to hedge their future existence.

LordMortis wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:24 pm /checks last month's bill... average KWH usage per day... 11.4 or about $2.28 per day...

...Well, I guess that's a whole lot better than the gas and Hummer would go through...

Also that thing could power my house for weeks.

Zaxxon wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:49 pm

LordMortis wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:24 pm /checks last month's bill... average KWH usage per day... 11.4 or about $2.28 per day...

...Well, I guess that's a whole lot better than the gas and Hummer would go through...

Also that thing could power my house for weeks.

A gallon of gasoline is ~33.7 kWh, so this was 300+ miles in a Hummer on a bit over 6 gallons of gas. Still way better than ICE, just embarrassingly bad for a BEV.

stessier wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:13 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:49 pm

LordMortis wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:24 pm /checks last month's bill... average KWH usage per day... 11.4 or about $2.28 per day...

...Well, I guess that's a whole lot better than the gas and Hummer would go through...

Also that thing could power my house for weeks.

A gallon of gasoline is ~33.7 kWh, so this was 300+ miles in a Hummer on a bit over 6 gallons of gas. Still way better than ICE, just embarrassingly bad for a BEV.

The gas version is embarrassingly bad for an ICE vehicle, so it's really just upholding the tradition.